Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings

["MPoole" <urgen@charter.net>]

ack, 1AM..  I'm going to finish this tomorrow.. maybe unless I'm too
tired. ;-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MPoole" <urgen@charter.net>
To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings


> Hi Micheal,
>
> So you are ruling me out because it doesn't work for you.  Email is not
> working for me, it is almost 1pm and I am *still* not all the way through
> reading.  Am I suppose to trash all this mail?  Am I suppose to devote
> every scrambled minute to catching up by the website?
>
> There were some words that mentioned dedication as the definition for
> those who deserve to represent the interests of the Internet Community
> at Large.  Dedication to what?  The mailing list?  That does seem to be
> the ruling order of the day.  I don't think it will get any further than
the
> first time @Large got booted out of the ring.
>
> This is getting crazy.  All I want to do is talk about topics on the list
> with a group of people who are interested in talking about the same thing
> only not have to wait 15 minutes to a half hour for each response.
>
> The list can continue as it will.  What I am interested in talking about
> won't be on the list.  This is probably the position of the majority of
the
> Internet.  Who or what is this group?
>
> MPoole
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>
> To: "'Atlarge.Discuss.List'" <"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>"@p15104972.pureserver.info>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
>
>
> > Hello Mark:
> >
> > Three hundred baud is not the problem.  International time zones is the
> problem.  And multiple venues is the problem.  Why not keep it simple and
> user friendly?  You are inserting another, albeit original, way to
> communicate.  If we have gone past IRC why do we need to scramble to learn
> the old way?
> >
> > Email, please.  It works globally.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "MPoole" <urgen@charter.net>
> > Date:  Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:05:53 -0700
> >
> > Oh boy, I'm dating myself here, by responding to email that is beginning
> to
> > collect dust.
> >
> > If there was someone that needed an SMTP interface to IRC we would be
more
> > than happy to bend as far as possible to make it work, right?  Isn't
that
> > the point?  Right tool for the job.  If it doesn't exist, invent it.
This
> > is the Internet after all.
> >
> > I can understand a concern for doing business outside of public venue
but
> > that only goes back to addressing the issue that is resisting
definition,
> > i.e. membership.  Bootstrapping requires a minimum set of components be
in
> > place at the time of initialization.  We need some volunteers to help
> > explore that minimum set and I was just suggesting a free and easy way
to
> > establish that definition of participation as "join the channel and you
> are
> > in."  If you still want to help but can't arrive at that level of
> > contribution or are just simply restricted by time zone centric hurdles
> then
> > we'll work around it.
> >
> > The digital divide will create the gap that stops the vehicle, is it the
> gap
> > or the vehicle that is the focus?  If the vehicle can help close the gap
> > then there isn't any problem.  Email creates as many gaps as it closes
> just
> > saying that it is one of the most common methods of exchange to date
only
> > describes the limits of the tools at hand not the capacity of the
> exchange.
> > IRC works great at 300 baud.
> >
> > MPoole
> > sorry for not signing my last post.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>
> > To: "'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> >
> >
> > > I agree with these limitations immediately, it should not be seen as
the
> > > end all solution, just an add-on and a tool that might ease panel
> > > members talking in real time. If such a meeting would every be
official
> > > I am sure official minutes would be posted to the website.
> > >
> > > Abel
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> > > > Sent: 01 June 2003 18:47
> > > > To: Hugh Blair; 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All Panel members and contributors:
> > > >
> > > > Please, please recognize that we aspire to include and
> > > > represent a global membership.  Please, therefore, also
> > > > recognize that bandwidth and online time are not universally
> > > > available or universally affordable.  This discuss list,
> > > > and/or other access to text archives must be available to
> > > > those who cannot readily use web based fora.  Email is
> > > > universal and must remain the primary communication tool for
> > > > this organization.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you, Ron Sherwood
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Hugh Blair" <hblair@hotfootmail.com>
> > > > To: "'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Abel Wisman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In order to facilitate the topic of this mail, I suggest
> > > > I set up a
> > > > > > dedicated ircd server for the icannatlarge.org under
> > > > > > irc.icannatlarge.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > IRC is not as accessable as a mail list. At least not for me. I
can
> > > > > receive email, redirect email anywhere needed, but actual
> > > > web access
> > > > > is not always available. If you set up an IRC channel,
> > > > unfortunately I
> > > > > won't be attending.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hugh
> >
> >
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