RE: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]

["Jeff Holt" <jefftttt@txucom.net>]

@Large,

If the below statement is true, I would like to be informed of when the
alleged discussion took place and why I was not privy to the discussion
beforehand.  As of this moment, the majority of those to express opinion
on the "Provisional Verification a Certification Committee" have voiced
preference for Joe Borda to continue in the role of Chair.  I have seen
no one other than S.S. even mention any rotation.  MY personal opinion
of rotating the Chair among both the "Panel" and the V&C Committee is
that it would inject additional overhead effort and serve only to slow
down processes.  

Sincerely,
 
TTTT
Jefftttt@txucom.net
www.tejas-info-services.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:15 PM
To: Ron Sherwood
Cc: At Large Discuss
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]

First off, I want to thank Ron for this email.

Ron Sherwood wrote:

>Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
>  
>
>>I have a real problem with this motion. 1) I do not think it's
necessary
>>to appoint a chair of the verification committee, it can rotate just
as
>>on the panel. 2) I don't think it's the membership's wish that the
Panel
>>appoint any Chairs of any committees 3) the verification of the panel
>>Members must take place by the Provisional Membership Committee now
>>forming before ANY of the mothions can be voted upon.
>>    
>>
>
>Good evening, Sotiris:
>
>May I address your numbered points above.
>
>1) It is my experience that any committee should have a chairperson.
Someone
>to keep discussion on topic, maintain order, keep member tasks to a
time
>line and to report on behalf of the committee.  It is a simple, proven,
>efficient method of keeping things on track and on time.  The
Chairperson is
>also the contact person for anyone wishing to interact with the
committee.
>The committee should choose its own chairperson.
>

The current Panel members are discussing implementing a rotating chair 
which is quite possibly an excellent idea.  I think this model should be

emulated by all the committees that we form.  This way, participation 
means just that!  What do you think of a rotating chair model for the 
verification committee, are you willing to consider it?

>
>2) I agree. I do not think it is the membership wish that the Panel
appoints
>any committee chairs.  In this case, your point would be valid only if
every
>member of the committee, was a member of the Panel.  That should not be
the
>case, and the committee should choose its own chairperson.  Any
committee
>member may propose such a person and the committee will vote on the
issue.
>

As above, I'd like to know how you feel about a rotating chair?  

>
>3) I agree that all Panel members should be verified by a membership
>committee that consists of verified members, but I don't why the
unverified
>"applicants" for a place on your committee, MUST be a part of the Panel
>verification process.
>
>Sotiris: What is wrong with the verified persons on your Provisional
>Membership Committee list working together now to complete the
verification
>of the Panel. 
>

Nothing is wrong with it, except that there may be others out there who 
may still want to join and we ought to give them a reasonable time 
window to do so.  Your own experience as a latecomer to the election is 
a good case in point. But, if nobody else has presented themselves by 
the 7th, I see no reason why the verified members of the committee 
cannot proceed to coordinate their efforts to verify the panel members.


> As soon as that is completed. The committee can then move on
>to other work as determined by the Panel. If the Panel feels that the
>committee is not doing its job competently, or if by some weird chance
they
>felt that a membership verification and privacy committee is no longer
>needed, they could propose to the membership that it be changed,
replaced,
>or disbanded.
>

No argument from me, if it's a verified membership that ultimately 
decides.  ;-)

>
>Since Joey Borda is not a Panel member, I would certainly support him
as
>chairman of the committee.
>

I wuld rather see a rotating chair which would facilitate a more active 
and overall productive committee.  But, if I had to choose one of the 
members, it would not be Joe Bordo, as I believe his verification 
standards are not adequately stringent (and that's my opinion and iam 
entitled to it).  Instead, I would support Micheal Sherrill as the 
Chair, if we didn't go with a rotation model.

Best Regards,

--Sotiris Sotiropoulos



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