Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee - Is just another sham!

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jeff H., and all fellow members,

  When are  you going to get it I wonder, no offense.  But really
now Pay Pal as a verification method?!!  Come on now!  How
ridiculous can this get I wonder?!

  No it is simple, this is just another of Lord Sotiris's silly
and seemingly childish nonsense.  He wants to eliminate
anyone that he and his pals don't like, just that simple.
And any reasonable person knows that you can't build
a real stakeholder/user membership organization that way.


Jeff Holt wrote:

> @Large,
>
> This is simply not true.  And the "Provisional Membership Committee" as
> being touted by Sotiris has no means of private communication unless we
> expand upon the Group already set up by Joe Borda for that purpose.
> Also, the function of the V&C Committee is to perform the procedures and
> report essentially a Yes/No verdict on whether the individual meats the
> criteria so far in place.  The members of such committee work separately
> and cooperatively, communicating within the V&C privately, and the data
> provided is NOT meant to be made fully public in order to protect the
> Privacy of those verified.  I have also not received any information as
> to who the Chair of this Committee actually is, but have seen at least a
> simple majority of the PV&C members so far in favor of Joe Borda
> continuing in the capacity.
>
> Micheal's assertion that all PV&C verifications need to be public is
> misleading.  The VERIFICATIONS ARE public, the data upon which those
> Verifications are based do NOT become Public.  For any of the PV&C
> members to broadcast any data provided by an @Large member will
> eventually be documented and be made reason for immediate removal from
> the PV&C Committee as a breach of confidentiality.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff Holt
> Jefftttt@txucom.net
> www.tejas-info-services.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Micheal Sherrill [mailto:micheal@beethoven.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:06 PM
> To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
>
> Hello Ron:
>
> I did not receive any information prior to the report by Sotiris.  In
> any case, the Verification Committee needs to make all transactions
> public.  Sotiris is only doing his job.
>
> Besides, you are missing the point.  Verification information has to be
> made public or it is not transparent.  Now, I am NOT talking about the
> private information that could be used for draining a personal bank
> account.  But, Joey did publish a rather large amount of personal
> information to this site earlier.
>
> I also disagree with your last sentence.  Without a Verification
> Committee nothing would get done.  And all verifications need to be
> public.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>
> Date:  Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:10:04 -0400
>
> Hello, Michael:
>
> The only correspondence that I have received from Sotiris is what I read
> on
> the public list.  I do not think that private information should be
> listed
> publicly. As a committee member, I formally object to that action and
> ask
> that it not happen again.
>
> If you received this information prior to it being published, and agreed
> to
> go public with it, then you are as accountable as Sotiris. I received
> nothing other than what was published to the list.
>
> It is the job of a verification committee to confirm (or not) the
> identity
> of an individual and to report their findings to the Panel and the
> membership. If the whole process is to take place in public... we don't
> need
> a verification committee.
>
> Best regards, Ron
>
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Regards,

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