RE: [atlarge-discuss] An opportunity to help

[<bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

This is an interesting conversation, but it misses the mark Danny set out
for us to hit: what are we willing to do besides *talk in the forum* about
this guy's situation?  I have an idea, but I'll explore it offline a bit
before I talk about it further here.

Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
bruce@barelyadequate.info
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
| Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:16 AM
| To: DannyYounger@cs.com; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
| Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] An opportunity to help
|
|
| >From an Internet User point of view, there is also an
| extremely strong case
| for mandatory minimum standards for registrars, with loss of
| ICANN-accreditation
| status for non-compliance. The trouble with "best practices"
| (which ICANN
| already sets out for registrars) is that they are not
| enforced... the whole
| thing is self-regulated... as a result, the 'good' registrars
| try to work to
| best practices and the cowboy firms just ignore them. ICANN
| does not enforce
| its advised "best practices".
|
| What's needed is teeth in the Registry and Registrar
| Agreements. Clear and
| defined sanctions. The right to trade in the people's DNS
| should only be
| granted and maintained if companies are prepared to comply
| with mandatory
| standards and rules. Don't comply? Then they lose their right
| to trade with
| 'our' (the world's) DNS. Life is full of decisions. People
| playing in the
| DNS
| Supply Industry should have to accept choices to. Accept
| enforced rules, or
| go
| sell donuts.
|
| The trouble is, ICANN doesn't see it as the world's DNS. To
| them the DNS is
| a profit-making commodity which 'insiders' exist to benefit from...
|
| If mandatory standards were written into contracts /
| agreements, then the
| Internet User would benefit and it might pre-empt all kinds of rogue
| activity...
|
| Like the registrars who committed fraud in the .info roll-out
|   ...  or the
| registrars who warehoused domains in the .biz rollout, using their
| registrar's advantage to submit short lists to the
| round-robin in order to
| queue jump.
|
| Ask yourself:
|
| .info roll-out... who got domain.info? who got domains.info?
|
| Answer:
|
| Well ask the Directors of Afilias, because their Registrars
| got them... how
| was domains.info got... by submitting a short queue which bucked the
| system...
| or to be more precise, the system was set up to be bucked...
|
| And ask Signature Domains who got key names in the .biz roll out by
| submitting a minute queue only for their own Partner...
|
| Is the DNS for the insiders in the supply industry, or for
| the world and
| ordinary Internet Users?
|
| I'd like to know precise answers from ICANN to precise questions, and
| implicit
| in the questions is the concern that ICANN 'turns a blind
| eye' as long as
| the
| registrars keep paying them...  but over a year after asking Dan
| Halloran (ICANN's Registrar Liaison) I've had no reply. Asked
| Paul Twomey if
| I could have a response from Dan, and Paul hasn't responded either...
|
| ICANN shows no serious commitment to ordinary Internet Users,
| and I fear
| "best practices" will be little more than a mantra, unless they are
| mandatory and punitive.
|
| We need a User Watchdog which is independent of ICANN
| (and not the ALAC poodle) in order to fight for the rights
| and interest of
| Ordinary Users... and I guess that is probably why ICANN is
| so intent on
| keeping
| the Elected Users out of their Board Room and keeping the At
| Large at arm's
| length,
| through the labyrinths of their processes, and layer upon
| layer upon layer
| of delegated
| or nominated unaccountable entities... and then, if you *do*
| ask direct and
| challenging
| questions, they can just *ignore* the questions and never
| even acknowledge
| them...
| I'm still waiting for Dan and Paul, but for all DoC's spin about
| 'responsiveness'
| and Paul's words about responsiveness... there is...
|
| no response
|
| yrs,
|
| Richard Henderson
| Icann At Large Member
| UK Region
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
| To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
| Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:19 AM
| Subject: [atlarge-discuss] An opportunity to help
|
|
| > On May 23, a Mr. Al Bode wrote a letter and posted it to
| the ALAC forum --
| > http://forum.icann.org/alac-forum/domain/msg00000.html
| >
| > No one on the ALAC has even noticed this letter.  Mr.
| Bode's problem deals
| > with hosting companies that list themselves as the
| registrant/administrative
| > contact when registering domain names for clients of their hosting
| services.
| > When these Hosting/ISP entities go bankrupt, it poses a
| problem for those
| > individuals that paid for rights to the domains but now are
| faced with a
| registrar
| > that won't respond to their needs (as registrars will cite
| ICANN rules
| that
| > disallow namespace changes if such modifications are not
| authorized by the
| > registrant and/or administrative contact).
| >
| > This particular practice is common in the hosting community
| worldwide, and
| > affects a substantial number of registrants (many of whom
| aren't educated
| with
| > regard to the finer points of DNS registration services) as
| a fair number
| of
| > ISPs go out of business on a regular basis.
| >
| > If the ALAC won't communicate with Mr. Bode, perhaps the members of
| > icannatlarge can act to help solve this vexing problem by
| bringing the
| issue to the
| > attention of the ICANN Board.  What is probably called for is the
| development of
| > a set of "Best Practices for ISPs" that has the blessing of
| ICANN's ISP
| > Constituency.  It might also be wise for ICANN to survey
| the ISP Community
| to
| > determine the magnitude of the problem (most especially in
| the developing
| world).
| >
| > Here is an opportunity to help.  How will this organization
| act to address
| > this challenge?
|
|
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