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Subject: Re: [Panel] RE: [Panel] MOTION #2003-0 - Chair Rotation and
Responsibilities
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:30:22 -0400
From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
To: panel@mailman.icannatlarge.org
References: <044001c32df7$31bc9380$38281f3e@mephisto>
Abel Wisman wrote:
And again, no answer, no facts, nothing.
Please state facts to backup your concern and please do not compare
pears and apples.
Where is the conflict of interest? Abel Wisman asks.
First off, Abel, let me point out the plain *fact* that at this point
you hold more control over this organization than any other member.
If the official website as you and yours allege is icannatlarge.org,
then we cannot overlook the *fact* that you have ultimate (albeit
indirect), definite, and sole proxy power over icannatlarge.org's dns
hosting which means we are effectively at your mercy as to where the
site can be hosted at this time. This, due to an as yet unexplained
arrangement, and a totally unnecessary and circuitos, nay mysterious,
server farm setup.
Furthermore, there is the *fact* that you are a panelist of this
organization. I do not think it is appropriate for an executive member
of this organization to conveniently find him/herself in such a singular
position of unrivalled control over key elements of this organization,
as control over the hosting (whether that be dns, mail, dbase, ftp,
whatever...) would ultimately entail. [In other words, the same
argument(s) that you use against Joop apply just as much to you.] This
is not personal, I am just being pragmatic in the interest of the whole
organization and its possible future.
Not to mention that I certainly do not think it is appropriate that you
should be the one to request/offer it... No offense, but it sounds
somewhat Pisistratean to me. I think it's certainly a generous offer
you make, but I think it is better for this organization to stay free of
such obligations. thank you nonetheless.
Whatever setup Vittorio was responsible for is not transferrable. The
membership desired change, NOT a continuance of the same state of
affairs. You have altogether too much undelegated control over this
organization. In this panel, we are unequal as to our abilities to
affect the organization's potential future due to your incommensurately
large portion of influence over its "assets", if you like. In old
Athens, someone like you would have been ostracize at this point.
Abel
P.S. As for "keen" interest, I made an offer, no "keen" interest, if you
want to make the same offer, with the same accessibility I will support
that. "in it" for me is the loss of a server I can rent out for £ 100 a
month and the bandwidth, I do not even ask for a sponsor mentioning.
Nobody does something for nothing. It doesn't have to be money... it
could be anything. Thanks again for your generosity, but it's best that
this organization is not beholden to you, Abel Wisman, or any ONE else.
--Sotiris Sotiropoulos
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"The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as the
ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing absolutely.
But for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for
modern physics fire is not an element but a phenomenon.
From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that jurisprudence can tell
minutely how in its opinion power should be constituted and what
power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's questions
about the meaning of the mutations of power in time it can answer
nothing."
--Leo Tolstoy, "War and Peace"
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