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Re: [atlarge-discuss] list confrontation(s)
I can live with the rules as stated below.
--Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Joop Teernstra wrote:
Yvonne asked for rules.
For the new members-only ML, I propose that we lay down some rules as
part of the subscription process.
Mailing List Rules
1. This Mailing List is a volunteer effort of icannatlarge members.
Respect it. It is there to support a cooperative effort that should
earn the respect of all.
2. This forum is not moderated in the sense of pre-vetting of messages
by the moderator(s). Moderation consists of exhortations by a
moderator who reminds forum members of the rules and can give warnings.
In order to prevent unpleasant situations from arising remember the
golden rule: "do not feed the troll", i.e., ignore the person who
tries to abuse the list by stirring up emotions.
3. Remain civil at all times, even when you feel provoked. Persistent
incivility will be rewarded with removal from the Forum.
You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous,
hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that
may violate any applicable laws. Doing so willfully may lead to you
being immediately and permanently banned or you posting rights being
restricted.
As a subscriber you agree that any posting that you have made is
being stored in a web based archive.
Civility includes not to repost private correspondence, unless such
correspondence was abusive or threatening and its reposting is in the
public interest.
4. Provocations by way of false statements.
Many of the people that will congregate here initially have interacted
with each other before. Some may want to repeat the pattern of
character assassination that has prevailed on other mailing lists.
The following rules will apply with regards to False Statements:
False statements can be made innocently as a result of an honest
mistake in recollection.
However, they can also serve as provocations that skirt the civility
rule.
a. When a false statement is made, each member who knows otherwise has
the right to challenge the statement with the comment FALSE or PLEASE
RETRACT.
b. When such a challenge is issued, the poster so challenged must
provide evidence of the truth of his statement within 5 days, or retract.
c. Repeated refusal to retract unproven statements is followed by
removal from the Mailing list.
d. When the challenged statement is a negative, (such as "I have never
said...") and therefore not provable, the challenger must provide
proof that the statement is false or retract his challenge within 5 days.
e. Refusal to retract an unproven FALSE challenge in case of a
negative statement can also lead to removal from the Mailing list.
5. Mail posted to the list should be free of attachments.
6. At times of heavy list traffic, the moderator may impose daily
posting limits for all.
These rules are enforced at the discretion of an elected Moderator
and will be in force until replaced with democratically agreed rules
via a vote.
By subscribing you agree to be bound by these rules.
-joop-
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"The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as the
ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing absolutely.
But for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for
modern physics fire is not an element but a phenomenon.
From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that jurisprudence can tell
minutely how in its opinion power should be constituted and what
power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's questions
about the meaning of the mutations of power in time it can answer
nothing."
--Leo Tolstoy, "War and Peace"
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