Re: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

[Micheal Sherrill <mjsherril@yahoo.com>]

Hello Ron:

Verbosity is no shield for obtuseness.  Your claims
and assertions lack 
credence. 

I have inserted my replies to your email within your
text below.  My 
comments are preceded by (MS).

Micheal: It is true that some members who did not want
Jeff Williams on 
the
committee tried to claim that he could not be verified
as a person.  I 
found
none of the protesters were able to provide any valid
reason other than
their personal dislike of the gentleman.

(MS)  There are many reasons to dislike Jeff Williams.
 He has 
threatened people with lawsuits, threatened people by
claiming to turn 
them in to the FBI, Homeland Security, and local
police.  More so, he 
will not verify himself.  We have not tried to claim
that he could not 
be verified as a person.  We have proved it, so far. 
You also try to 
turn the subject away from Jeff Williams and make it
sound like a 
vendetta.  Sorry, but we were the committee that was
verifying panel 
members and runners up.  How could we stand as a valid
committee 
without verifying ourselves first?

My reasoning is simple, like me.  The committee was
open to all 
members.
Eleven members volunteered to serve.  I have, in fact
only spoken to 
two of
them at telephone numbers published in their name, but
I do believe 
those
two exist as individuals regardless of the name they
use.  The other 
nine
were verified by various methods that were not
necessarily any more
foolproof than the conversations that I had with the
two.  I merely 
wanted
to show that the committee was inclusive, rather than
exclusive as some
would have it.

(MS)  Your reasoning is not simple.  It is flawed. 
The committee 
undertook the verification of all volunteers.  Jeff
Williams was not 
verified.  Regardless of whether or not the various
methods were 
foolproof is no reason to deny the process.  Nothing
is foolproof.  We 
had already agreed that verification could be achieved
by many paths.  
Jeff Williams chose not to follow any of those paths. 
Therefore, he 
was not verified.  Calling someone on the phone was
not one of the 
methods we had agreed was a viable method.  Even a dog
can answer a 
telephone.

I don't understand the fuss you are making. Since Jeff
Williams chose 
not to
participate anyway, your complaint cannot be that he
had any adverse
influence on the committee, so I am left with the
assumption that you 
have a
personal reason to send negative mail about the person
that so many 
members
love to hate.

(MS)  Again, you are trying to turn the subject away
from the issue and 
make it seem personal.  I already told you in earlier
committee emails 
why including someone that is notorious for not
accepting 
responsibility by authenticating themselves was
diluting the good will 
of the committee.  How can a verification committee
have as a member a 
person that will not verify?  It makes a mockery of
what we were trying 
to accomplish and leaves us open to ridicule.

Please justify the statements in your post by showing
us all your proof 
that
Jeff Williams cannot be reached with Restricted mail
as you claim.  I 
have a
mailbox (everyone here does, that's how we get our
mail).  I receive 
regular
USPS mail, Express Mail, Priority Mail, Registered
Mail, Certified 
Delivery
Mail, Return Receipt Mail, Express Mail packages,
Priority Mail 
packages,
Registered Mail packages and any other service the
United States Post 
Office
provides... all to my mailbox address.  Are you sure
you are stating 
facts
here? Or is your dislike of Jeff Williams so great
that you are 
prepared to
pass off wishful thinking as fact?

(MS) Again, you try to turn the subject away from the
issue.  You list 
all the things you can receive in your mailbox.  You
did not list the 
one thing you cannot.  A Restricted Delivery letter
here in the United 
States can only be delivered to the person for whom it
is addressed.  
The postalperson has to recognize the addressee.  A
mailbox is not an 
addressee.  Usually, one has to produce a photo ID to
sign for the 
letter.  Jeff Williams cannot receive a Restricted
Delivery letter 
because he has a mailbox and no photo ID to claim the
letter. 

This is not an endorsement of Jeff Williams, it is a
concern that some
members are too free with baseless allegations.

(MS) This last sentence defies logic.  All the
allegations are based on 
his own words to this list.  If you have not read Jeff
Williams 
postings you are wasting the time and resources of
this group.  And, 
yes, you are trying to endorse Jeff Williams.  You did
so when you 
allowed him to be privy to the internal communications
of the 
Provisional Membership Committee.  And you are still
trying to endorse 
him even now.  Foremost, Jeff Williams needs to
endorse himself.  And 
he cannot.

Regards,


Micheal Sherrill





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