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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
Michael and all fellow members,
Micheal Sherrill wrote:
> Hello Ron:
>
> You just wrote another 750 word reply that skirts, once again, the issues.
>
> 1. a mailbox is not a physical address and has little weight for verification
I gave my physical address as well Michael. The post office
in Frisco Texas requires one for a p.o.. Box.
>
> 2. anybody can have a phone number and answer as Jeff Williams (even you)
But my phone number is unique like most phone #'s and it is also
a listed number as well.
>
> 3. Jeff Williams was never verified
> 4. you defied the repeated requests of many of the committee members to not include
> Jeff Williams in our internal communications because he was not verified
Bullshit!
See again: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg00616.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:45:27 -0400
>
> Good afternoon, Micheal:
>
> Obviously I do not agree with your assessment of the situation.
>
> I did not list my complaints against Jeff Williams, because that was not the
> purpose of my message. You (and others) have done that repeatedly, and
> again in your message copied below. Describing the reasons why this person
> is disliked or should not be a committee member has nothing to do with
> whether or not he was offered the option of mail verification (he was) and
> whether he chose to use it (he did) and whether or not the verifiers
> bothered to attempt that verification (it appears that they did not) or
> whether they simply wanted to state that he was not verified (they
> apparently did).
>
> If you were to call my published telephone number, and I were to answer with
> my name, and we proceeded to discuss this topic (and many others that have
> taken place over the past week or so), you would be a strange bird indeed
> if you decided that it was not me that you were talking to. (I did these
> things in order to satisfy myself that Jeff Williams was a real person at
> the phone number he published). For you to suggest that my dog might answer
> the phone and that you could not tell the difference, does not say very much
> for your cognitive skills.
>
> Micheal, don't patronize me with your talk of how the US Postal Service
> works. Either you are looking for excuses or you know less about the USPS
> than I do.
>
> The restricted Delivery service is a simple add-on to any of the other
> postal services (all those that I listed in fact). it costs $3.50 and is a
> requirement that the item be delivered only to a named person against some
> sort of ID. A driver's license is usually good enough, but I have seen all
> sorts of ID used, from credit cards to voters registration cards to
> passports.
>
> When you try to excuse a failure to even _attempt_ certification by mail, on
> the grounds that the United States Mail Service will not cooperate, you are
> making a convenient assumption that is totally incorrect. You may send a
> Restricted Delivery letter to me at my mailbox and it is treated like any
> other mail except that it will be handed to me personally. You may not know
> this, Micheal, but a huge number of Americans have a mailbox at the end of
> their driveway. In many rural areas, mail is not delivered to homes at all,
> but to a block of mailboxes on a road junction somewhere, often many miles
> from a remote farm or house.
>
> Strange as it may seem to you, Micheal, some Americans even go to work
> occasionally and are not at home when the Mail delivery person calls. If
> the Mailperson has an Express Mail package or a certified letter or a
> Restricted Delivery letter or any of the many postal items that cannot be
> left in a roadside mailbox, guess what? Every one of those millions of
> Americans are then treated just like those of us who have mailboxes. The
> mailman leaves a little card that says, you must come to the counter at the
> Post Office to retrieve the package or Restricted Delivery letter or
> whatever. It usually advises that the item will be kept for 5 working days
> before it is returned to the sender. When you go to the Post Office to
> collect your Restricted Delivery mail you are asked for identification.
>
> Now, why don't you just tell me that you have sent a Restricted Delivery
> letter to Jeff Williams and that it was returned because there is no such
> person. That would save you from having to make all those silly excuses for
> failing to even try.
> Strangely enough, if you had done this last week, the 5 day holding limit
> might have kicked in during Jeff's absence, and you would have really had an
> opportunity to crow... with a rejected piece of mail in your hand. Why not
> try it now, you might just get lucky.
>
> I do understand that you are likely to try to obscure these facts with fancy
> words like verbosity and obtuseness, and to tell me that my verbosity and my
> obtuseness have somehow conspired to create a lack of credence for my
> assertions, but... wait a minute, you already did that. Still, I am sure
> you will think of something else.
>
> Best regards to you my friend, Ron Sherwood
>
> --
> Micheal Sherrill
> micheal@beethoven.com
>
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> certification. Please go to their Web of Trust page at
> https://www.thawte.com/html/SUPPORT/wot/general.html for information.
>
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