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Re: [atlarge-discuss] who is intimidated?



Joop and all fellow members,

  To first answer your question in the subject line.  No reasonable
person should be intimidated.

  I don't understand how I could have been nominated if as Sotiris,
Darryl AKA "Dessa" Lynch seem to be contending if I don't
exist.

  As to ""claude.thielet" <claude.thielet@laposte.net>" contention
in his post http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00284.html
to which Joop provides, regarding his supposed investigative
work is certainly a matter of some dubious validity...


Joop Teernstra wrote:

>     From the intimidating "draft":
>
> ...et soutenue par M. Joop Teernstra, résidant Néo-Zélandais,
> d’origine Hollandaise, qui a tenté par intimidation de M. Morfin (Ã
> qui
> j'ai intimé de refuser vigoureusement, ce qui n'a pas interrompu la
> pression) de se faire livrer des données confidentielles à mon
> sujet....
>
> In case a real Mr Thielet exists and is still lurking on this list, I
> furnish a copy here of what I wrote privately to Mr Morfin, so that Mr
>
> Thielet can inform himself of the truth of Mr Morfin's allegations.
>
> This is the extent of my "intimidation" in my private messages to
> Jefsey:
>
> Quote
>
> >>In begin July I will be in France with my whole family.
> >>It would be nice if we could meet, even for a short time, while I
> >>transfer to Gare Montparnasse .
>
>
>
>  >I expect on July 6. We will also be in Poitiers for a few days.
> (funny
> story-my daughter's boyfriend is the NZ >gaming champion and world
> No.3) .
> They will have the world championship in Parc Futuroscope)
>
>
>  >PS. I will be in Paris again on he 11th July. With more time.
>  >Let me know what suits you. Perhaps you can bring Mr Thielet along?
>
> EoQ
>
> Where is the intimidation? Where is the "asking for client data"?
> Perhaps a
> misunderstanding of "what suits you?"
> If Jefsey maintains that there is intimidation, I challenge him to
> produce
> the entire correspondence.
>
> To me it all looks more and more like a desperate attempt to halt
> further
> ID verification attempts of  this entity "ct", whose introduction to
> this
> list was this:
>
>
> Received: (qmail 8825 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 2003 13:50:27 -0000
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00284.html
> Quote
> I remotely follow this list since the begining as a
> professionnal intelligence gathering person. I see what Jefsey
> is trying to achieve and I agree with the limitations that
> Jeff Williams calls for. It may be the proper time for me to
> use my "observer" understanding of this group, and to setp in
> for one shot.
> I therefore nominate:
>
> (Long list follows)
>
> This was followed by two posts from Jefsey from the same
> <claude.thielet@laposte.net> address.
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00487.html
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00030.html ·
> References:
> <5.2.0.9.0.20030228132901.0282b600@mail.club-internet.fr>
>
> followed by unconvincing  damage control from Jefsey: titled
> "confusing claude"
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00031.html
>
>
> Later attempts to explain the email spoofing are even more confusing:
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00367.html
>
> If someone redirects mail to me and I reply using Eudora, it does not
> result in the address of the redirector appearing as my "from"
> address.
>
> All I would like to know for sure is if Claude Thielet is a separate
> identity.
> Jefsey's frantic reaction to a simple suggestion to meet is not
> normal.
>
>
> -joop-
>

Regards,

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