Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris Sotiropoulos FUD follows Hugh Blair FUD to: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris, Where is that Registered Restricted Letter? Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

Thank you, Sotiris:

I hope you have a productive time at the conference.

Thank you for "bearding the lion" for me.

Best wishes, Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris Sotiropoulos FUD follows Hugh
Blair FUD to: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris, Where is that Registered
Restricted Letter? Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee


> Ron,
>
> It would be my pleasure to pass your concerns on to the ALAC, and I will
> definitely pass on your greetings to Danny.  Might even share a Cuban
> cigar with him (if he smokes contraband) and drink a toast to your health!
>
> Be Well,
>
> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> Ron Sherwood wrote:
>
> >Sotiris:
> >
> >You offered to deal with DNS/IP concerns at the Montreal conference.  As
I
> >explained in a previous post, I have the DNS side of the conference
covered.
> >However, there is usually a time conflict that prevents one from
attending
> >the ccTLD meetings and the ICANN sponsored @Large meetings (they are
> >scheduled for the same time).  It would be very helpful if you could show
up
> >at the ALAC meetings and report our position on the RALO issue.
> >
> >I am specifically concerned that my "Caribbean Region" with its own
unique
> >connectivity, Telco monopoly, high bandwidth cost and inferior
> >infrastructure problems, is lumped into the Latin American "Region". The
US
> >Virgin Islands are permitted to be a part of the North American "Region",
> >but our neighbors (the Dutch, English, French, Spanish and many
independent
> >countries) are all lumped together in the Latin American "Region". Decent
> >ISP service has to be backhauled at great expense to Super ISPs that may
be
> >on any of the three surrounding continents, dependent upon who owns the
> >fiber. These infrastructure contractors and super ISPs often do not fit
into
> >the RALO "Regions" set up by ICANN.
> >
> >There is a very real need for ICANN and the ALAC to recognize that @Large
> >organizations should be formed where needed, for whatever purpose the
users
> >need them, and still be recognized by ALAC without having to be fitted
into
> >their five RALO boxes.  Language is one of the reasons, but
infrastructure,
> >culture and the need to deal with monopoly situations are all valid
reasons
> >for @Large users to create their own regional groups.
> >
> >I will be grateful if you get an opportunity to bring this situation to
the
> >attention of ALAC (say Hi to Danny for me) and can report back to our
> >membership on the reaction to your input.
> >
> >Thanks again for your kind offer.
> >
> >Best regards, Ron
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> >To: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>
> >Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:02 AM
> >Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris Sotiropoulos FUD follows Hugh
> >Blair FUD to: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Sotiris, Where is that Registered
> >Restricted Letter? Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Ron,
> >>
> >>Do you have any DNS/IP etc. concerns as a User which you would like me
> >>to express on your behalf at the upcoming ICANN meeting in Montreal?
> >>
> >>Ron Sherwood wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Sotiris:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >><SNIP>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The only reason that I have not already done so is because I don't
> >>>want to risk being subjected to your venomous condemnation as a fraud
if
> >>>
> >>>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>>have to report that I did indeed receive proof of delivery.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I thank you not to attempt to get inside my head and prognosticate what
> >>I may or may not do.  As for who's looking silly in this exchange...
> >>that depends on where one stands, Ron.
> >>
> >>I will not be responding to any more of your caustic remarks on this
> >>topic.  We will wait and see if Jeff Holt can verify JW.  If you can't
> >>live with that, then I suggest you find a pier or a tall bridge.
> >>
> >>--Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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