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Re: [atlarge-discuss] FW: [Panel] On the creation of committees or workgroups



Abel and all fellow members,

  In that you block or filter my Email by your own admission
it is difficult to believe you really and interested in any members
input other than for appearances sake.

  In any event in that all of those members here before
April of 2003 have been spamed via Jefsey's "Execlub.org"
and than again starting just a few days ago with his
atlarge.ws ML, it is difficult to positively entertain
any credence in such proposals until a real legitimate
election for REAL panel members is actually held.


Abel Wisman wrote:

> This proposal was send to the panellist yesterday, I would appreciate
> member-input, volunteers and in all some positive forward action from
> those interested in this topic.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Abel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: panel-admin@mailman.icannatlarge.org
> [mailto:panel-admin@mailman.icannatlarge.org] On Behalf Of Abel Wisman
> Sent: 16 June 2003 14:44
> To: panel@mailman.icannatlarge.org
> Subject: [Panel] On the creation of committees or workgroups
>
> In order to get things moving beyond organizing ourselves as a panel and
> to get to the stage where this organization can be of some value it
> would perhaps be a good idea to (with the idea of facilitating in mind)
> be a good idea to start (besides web-comm/ webmaster ) a few workgroups
> to see how fast we can achieve the things we had set out to achieve.
>
> Considering the fact that this organization has no by-laws, a comm on
> that would be a first priority in my opinion. All other comms such as
> DNS and WHOIS, ALAC/ICANN-relations, OUTREACH and more have importance
> and could use support.
>
> I would for now however like to emphasize the by-laws.
>
> Serveral attempts were made untill now:
>
> Hans Klein 1st draft:
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0210/msg00248.html
> Comments from Jamie Love
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0210/msg00254.html
> Michael Geist draft http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0211/msg00051.html
> And more recent postings:
>
> http://www.icannia.org/bylaws.htm
> http://www.icannatlarge.co.uk/draftbylaws.htm
>
> Besides that we have "some" rules in place that were put there by
> previous panel(s), though they are certainly not set in stone.
>
> Though I have some ideas on how to proceed with this I would not like to
> burden any committee/workgroup with set-rules upfront. I would however
> dearly like to see several options for members to vote upon
>
> Having by-laws in place makes it easier to incorporate as well, but I
> see democraticly constructed by-laws as a first priority, the
> incorporation would simply have to fit the by-laws of this organization
> and not vice versa. Once by-laws are voted in place, we can then do a
> comparison of incorporation options in conjunction with our by-laws and
> again propose options to the members.
>
> Perhaps we can initiate a motion to organize said committee/workgroup?
>
> If we are afraid that "organizing" the committee and having them agree
> on a work-method might take longer then the actual composure of those
> by-laws we "can" add a lay-out for work to that committee, on which we
> can of course discuss.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Abel
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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