Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all fellow members,

  That is ONE idea, sure enough!  But don't count on getting
more than a couple of bucks!  To me anyway this idea sounds
allot like Corp. Welfare, with us as the recipient...  Not
a smart play, short or long term.  So no, WE need to raise
our own funds ourselves and/or through a professional
fund raising corp..

  I know, this means a number of our members are going
to need a fund raising plan, and actually do some hard
work, door knocking....

Ron Sherwood wrote:

> Good morning, Bruce:
>
> There is another possibility.
>
> We should apply to ICANN for a grant to form an independent, international
> Internet Users Association called ICANN@Large or Internet@Large that would
> satisfy the DoC requirement for bottom-up representation.  How easy it would
> be for ICANN to comply with our request and show that they have seen the
> light. If we fail, they could claim that our failure supports the need for
> their ALAC. How hard for them to justify a refusal, without blatantly
> exposing their top-down control-everything model.
>
> We can claim a thousand-plus grass-roots members; a democratically elected
> leadership; an active and informed on-line participation (over 9,000
> contributions in the past year - [compare to ALAC zero] ). We place our name
> on the ICANN table, and before the DoC.
>
> We have nothing to lose from such a request.
>
> ICANN will have to wriggle their way through an embarrassing refusal.
>
> Ron Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
> To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
>
> > This is a general response to this thread.
> >
> > This may be one of the harderest decisions we make.  On the one hand, I
> > agree that his organization needs funds if it wants to be effective.
> > However, any level of dues we set that would provide significant funding
> for
> > our organization would also likely be an unreachable burden for many of
> our
> > potential members.   And I am unalterably opposed to basing the influence
> of
> > a member in this organization to their level of financial support!  The
> very
> > idea is anathema to the bottom-up philosophy may of us have fought to make
> > real for years!
> >
> > So, as I see it, this leaves us with two options:
> >
> > -  A graduated dues tied to the member's local economy in some fashion.
> >
> > -  Finding funding in some other fashion: donations, fund-raising
> > (e-commerce?), etc.
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Portland, Oregon USA
> > bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Support democratic control of the Internet!
> > Go to http://www.icannatlarge.org and Join ICANN At Large!
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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