RE: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

I find this an intruiging thought, and I refer to my post on
incorporation. 

I think that if we can incorporate we should try and follow this path
but at the same time (again once incorporated) try "sponsoring" venues,
we have enough contacts amidst ourselves to realize a lot for free as
far as I can fathom.

Kind regards

Abel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi] 
> Sent: 05 July 2003 15:01
> To: Walter Schmidt; Atlarge Discuss List
> Cc: Walter Schmidt
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
> 
> 
> Walter Schmidt wrote:
> > Said tounge-in-cheek, or for real?
> 
> For real.
> 
> If it is met with silence (as Hugh Blair suggests)... it is 
> still on the record and will remain as a testament to the 
> ICANN attitude to at-large users.  If it is met with any 
> other response, we are free to leverage that response to our 
> advantage.
> 
> Any kind of grant would be helpful.  When we are legitimized 
> by incorporation, and we have an elected BoD with President, 
> Secretary and Treasurer (or their Trustee equivalents), there 
> are many foundations that we could apply to for grants.  In 
> addition  I, along with many other members, will be happy to 
> make an annual donation to help with expenses.  However, 
> ICANN has a mandate to build at-large participation in its 
> affairs. It is therefore the obvious first place to apply for 
> financial assistance in this effort.
> 
> I repeat, we have nothing to lose by asking ICANN for seed 
> money.  ICANN has a lot to lose by refusing us.
> 
> Ron Sherwood.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Schmidt" <walts@dorsai.org>
> To: "Atlarge Discuss List" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Cc: "Walter Schmidt" <walts@dorsai.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
> 
> 
> >
> >    ...which way the wind blows
> >
> > Ron -
> >
> > Said tounge-in-cheek, or for real?
> >
> > --- REgards, walts
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, Ron Sherwood wrote:
> >
> > > There is another possibility.
> > >
> > > We should apply to ICANN for a grant to form an independent, 
> > > international Internet Users Association called ICANN@Large or 
> > > Internet@Large that would satisfy the DoC requirement for 
> bottom-up 
> > > representation.  How easy it would be for ICANN to comply 
> with our 
> > > request and show that they have seen the light. If we fail, they 
> > > could claim that our failure supports the need for their 
> ALAC. How 
> > > hard for them to justify a refusal, without blatantly 
> exposing their 
> > > top-down control-everything model.
> > >
> > > We can claim a thousand-plus grass-roots members; a 
> democratically 
> > > elected leadership; an active and informed on-line participation 
> > > (over 9,000 contributions in the past year - [compare to 
> ALAC zero] 
> > > ). We place our name on the ICANN table, and before the DoC.
> > >
> > > We have nothing to lose from such a request.
> > >
> > > ICANN will have to wriggle their way through an embarrassing 
> > > refusal.
> > >
> > > Ron Sherwood
> > >
> >
> > 
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