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[atlarge-discuss] Translated content ----- RE: [atlarge-discuss] Forum Usage at dot-org
Eric and @all,
I believe that the solution of small flags to choose the language is a
simple solution, although it will demand work to the development team.
These flags can make, basically two things, to show the translated content
or to invoke an on-line translator. I find this last option mistaken for
that the translators are not perfect and in many cases they are awful.
It is important to respect the language to translate, it is a way of respect
to the members that speak that language. Of course it is impossible to
translate to all the languages, but a good beginning is to translate at the
5 more spoken languages or 3.
An agile and practical methodology, perhaps be that the "team web", use
software to translate a content and send the original content and the
automatic translation to a member (or several) that speak that language.
This way they save him time to this members (or several) and it will only
verify if the grammar is correct. How will those members be chosen?, is that
a topic to solve.
....................
[ES] Creo que la solución de pequeñas banderas para elegir el idioma es una
solución simple, aunque demandará trabajo al equipo de desarrollo.
Estas banderitas puede hacer, básicamente dos cosas, mostrar el contenido
traducido o invocar un traductor on-line. Esta última opción me parece
equivocada por que los traductores no son perfectos y en muchos casos son
espantosos.
Es importante respetar el idioma a traducir, es una manera de respeto a los
miembros que hablan ese idioma. Por supuesto es imposible traducir a todos
los idiomas, pero un buen comienzo es traducir a los 5 idiomas más hablados
o 3.
Una metodología ágil y práctica, tal vez sea que el "equipo web", utilice
software para traducir un contenido y envíe el contenido original y la
traducción automática a un miembro (o varios) que hablen ese lenguaje. De
esta forma le ahorran tiempo a este miembros (o varios) y solamente deberá
verificar si la gramática es correcta. ¿Cómo se elegirán esos miembros?, eso
es un tema a resolver.
greetings,
Mauro.-
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Eric Dierker [mailto:eric@hi-tek.com]
Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Julio de 2003 10:34 a.m.
Para: mdrios@adinet.com.uy
CC: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Asunto: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Forum Usage at dot-org
Good points here,
are pages the right way to go?
e
> @all,
>
> I believe that it would be contrary (if it is what wants to intend) to
> the spirit of @Large to make separate websites (although it is a single
> DNS) for countries or languages, I believe that the place should be an
> only website with the possibility of seeing its content in several
> languages. A website with an only one responsible team. To separate the
> contents and their administration is counteractive to the objectives
> that we all look for, among them the integration.
>
> I find Daniel Tobias's solution an interesting alternative, of course
> better offers are listened.
> Of course, I want, the "team web" will receive the whole support of the
> members that speak other languages.
> ..............................................
>
> [ES] Creo que sería contrario (si es lo que se quiere proponer) al
> espíritu de @Large hacer websites separados (aunque sea un solo DNS)
> para países o idiomas, creo que el sitio debe ser un único website con
> la posibilidad de ver su contenido en varios idiomas. Un website con un
> sólo equipo
> responsable. Separar los contenidos y su administración es
> contraproducente a los objetivos que todos buscamos, entre ellos la
> integración.
>
> La solución de Daniel Tobias me parece un alternativa interesante, por
> supuesto se escuchan ofertas mejores. Por supuesto, deseo, el "equipo
> web" recibirá todo el apoyo de los miembros que hablan otros idiomas.
>
> greetings,
> Mauro.-
>
>
>
> Jeff Holt wrote:
>
>> "e" and @Large;
>>
>> The word would be "separate", and that would be your opinion not fact.
>> As Dan Tobias notes, there are several methods of allowing users to
>> view web pages in their own language, while in fact there may be
>> separate html source for each, that fact should remain transparent to
>> the web visitor and appear automatically at best and by a simple
>> translate button otherwise.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jeff Holt
>> Jefftttt@txucom.net
>> www.tejas-info-services.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Dierker [mailto:eric@hi-tek.com]
>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:26 AM
>> To: jefftttt@txucom.net
>> Cc: mdrios@adinet.com.uy; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
>> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Forum Usage at dot-org
>>
>> If it can be done easily, seperate sites for seperate languages is
>> better.
>> e
>>
>> > Mauro,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I think provision for multilingual pages might be a better facility
>> > to use as a goal instead of separating the languages and putting up
>> > a conceptual barrier between cultures. I have seen pages with
>> > simple "flag" icons which automatically translate to the language as
>> > necessary. This would even facilitate better understanding among
>> > members of
>> > disparate language backgrounds, no?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This would be a good Post for the Web team's open wish list forum
>> > maybe... when we get the "Round-to-it" working. Thanks for your
>> > responsible suggestion.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff Holt
>> >
>> > Jefftttt@txucom.net
>> >
>> > www.tejas-info-services.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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