Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Verification Committee....

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Abel and all fellow members,

  I think you either misunderstood Daniel or you are talking
about two different subjects here Abel.

  I also agree that posting passwords over a public Email
list/forum is a definate no-no.  But so was transfering
the membership list data over a unsecure FTP connection...
However this has nothing what so ever to do with what
Daniel was talking agout...

Abel Wisman wrote:

> Excuse me??
>
> I heard a lot of nonsense but this is close to the top!
>
> There is NO comparison whatsoever between the two.
>
> Please name me instances when paswds go over the maillist or the forum?
> Are you telling me that you are sharing passwds ????? That is the WORST
> decision ANY sysadmin could allow!
>
> There is NO information that goes on or around in the web-comm that can
> not see the light of day, unlike the verification comm which deals with
> personal data of real people.
>
> There is no code used in websites that need "protection" or is not easy
> to obtain in other ways, at most it is boring to read and I sure as hell
> don't believe you will be sending each other code on a maillist.
>
> Please stop this nonsense and open up that forum. If you guys refuse to
> comply with this simple request please bare in mind I am very willing to
> make this a panel motion.
>
> Abel
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel CHIRITA [mailto:daniel@chirita.org]
> > Sent: 15 July 2003 20:17
> > To: 'Atlarge-Discuss@Lists. Fitug. De'
> > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss]
> > Verification Committee....
> >
> >
> > I dont understand: why VC discussions must be closed to
> > public, and Webteam must be public ??? I know, VC handles
> > personal data, but Webteam handles informations about
> > website, code, passwords, and other informations which must
> > remain private, for security raisons ;) I think both VC and
> > WebTeam should have a public but also a private section.
> >
> > Daniel CHIRITA
> >
> > >-----Message d'origine-----
> > >De : Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com]
> > >Envoyé : mardi 15 juillet 2003 20:39
> > >À : Atlarge-Discuss@Lists. Fitug. De
> > >Objet : [atlarge-discuss] Verification Committee....
> > >
> > >
> > >http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0307/msg00360.html
> > >Ron wrote:
> > >The VC should continue to work their own e-mail list. It is
> > >private to the committee, it is asymmetric and always
> > >available to everyone, regardless of bandwidth constraints.
> > >
> > >- I agree, but I fail to see how it can have open discussions
> > >on a day to day basis and at the same time comply with it's
> > >obligations not to disclose confidential information provided
> > >to it for verification purposes by individual members. The VC
> > >e-mail list must be a closed list therefore, like a security
> > >committee, but certainly it's decisions can be and ought to be
> > >recorded publicly, with a record of each Resolution and a
> > >report of how each VC member voted, which can be widely published.
> > >
> > >Joanna
> > >
> > >
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