Re: [atlarge-discuss] Move to suspend Jeff Williams membership

["Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>]

Hello Mauro:

Your comprehension of the subject and eloquent prose regarding the matter are
subtle and superb.  Destabilization and disruption have been this person's 
"raison d'etre" for many, many years.  This organization will not have a stable
forum and a well thought out set of bylaws and structure nor business model
until this entity is removed.

We need to get on with the building of icannatlarge.  We should not waste much
more time with this deeply disturbed person.  Ban him and get on with it.

Regards,


Micheal Sherrill


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "A/S Mauro D. Ríos" <mdrios@adinet.com.uy>
Date:  Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:17:14 -0300

Dear @All,

...on the other hand...
As me and many other members have been saying and giving evidences to the
Panel in private mails, there are antecedents of JW from 1996 in Internet.
It is a ghost, it has participated of almost all the organizations linked
ICANN, ISOC and other, when I say it participated I refer to the cartoon,
difficultly we can say that he is a person o several.

In all the cases it has left clean, it has mounted and orchestrated big
movements of disorder or discussions, coarse simply to look for their name
in Internet. Their strategy is almost always the same one, to generate
discussions, to cause, to incite, to destabilize and he never responds
concretely, it doesn't face the problems and we won't achieve that he
responds in a direct way the accusations, has made this way always it.
Following the game of JW you doesn't arrive to any place, the organization
enters in the dark and then everything is made it costs up. It is a ghost
like the Director "Mr. Smetee" in the cheap movies.

Complementarily to their strategy, I invite to read in Internet on the
matter, he causes and he threatens, he threatens trials, he threatens
letters and notifications, finally never concrete anything, doesn't look for
to sum up anything, it is simply a game of institutional unstabilization.

Their behavior is the same one almost in all the lists where I have read its
notes, it deviates the attention, if it attacks it to him the deaf one it is
made and he writes on another thing, he answers ambiguously, it disappears
some days and it reappears with a text that anything has to do with the
problem, a strategy that uses and it is almost its presentation signature it
is that when it is penned it sends to the list a URL of a news, a press
article or similar, in general it presents that article or URL saying that
he has to do with the organization or with the problem, in fact when we read
it we realize that it is not this way that that article has very little that
to see, but he already achieved its objective...to disperse the discussion.

Theories are many envelope who is this extracted personality of an urban
legend. I in the personal thing have my favorite ones, but be which is the
theory that is written on JW, the only thing certain it is their tablet you
to be a non stability factor in any organization where he interferes.

I invite the members to look for the name of JW in Internet and to read the
discussions in other lists and other organizations. The discussions that we
are carrying out here, are identical to those that other unaware ones have
had with him in other lists.

If after what I have said here and of the whole material that me and others
have contributed in private, they want to continue keeping in mind to JW
inside @Large, lament to tell them that we will regret to waste the time in
him.

If they don't want to veto it, simply ignore it, it will be healthier for
all.

Please read, is only example:
http://fcn.net/robin/mr99jeff.html (very good)
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-August/000017.ht
ml
http://archive.nznog.org/2002-01/msg00324.html
http://www.ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg03029.html
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01161.html
http://www.fichtner.net/outlook/1999-01.html (in german)

But how member of @Large, I will accompany the majority, if decides to
confront this ghost, I will support the decision.

We all have fallen at some time in the temptation of discussing with him.

What @Large cannot allow, is that he dirties the activities of the
organization for that many members don't know it and they don't know its
history or antecedents, it is important that the Panel is attentive to
clarify any distortion of a topic or an intervention of JW to clarify the
point to the unaware members.



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