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[atlarge-discuss] The devil's trap



I think all of you should think twice about the method to use to ban Jeff Williamses.

IMHO this affair is an organized trap. That trap was set-up the day I started the election process: Jeff Williams was the clone chosen to blow it, even in committing e-suicide. JWs was to organize a clash in opposing and in adding "unacceptable" acts. Among others it was disclosing its VID, claiming ballots where spam, the Jeff/Jeff lunchon, now this mail. Next it would be insulting Vint or GW Bush.

What they want is to oblige the Panel to vote the ban of JWs and look a stupid group a nazi folks.

The Panel has not the power (no by-laws) nor the capacity (Thomas has consistently refused to ban anyone) to ban Jeff. It has documented (Joop) that it could not and needed another list. So what, they vote and get refused? Looks nice.

Would Thomas accept, they would claim it is biased (hurting Thomas' reputation) that the Panel is a joke (quoting Sotiris) and that thye want to punish JWs from saying it from the very first day. And it will look a joke as everyone, including Joanna and Danny, know that banning JWs will not ban its author.

BTW, this happens just when the GA is disrupted. Any relation?


What I would propose would be:

1. to create another list with the same members, under the open minded control of the Panel (so no one can object).

2. expose the case to the whole Membership and ask it to vote on it. This would:

- show the Panel respects its role and duties
- this is an exceptional decision, with an exceptional procedure, for an exceptional fault
- this will let know everyone that at last an action has been undertaken against manipulators
- may be there could be two questions : do you want to ban - to join the new list.
It could be good outreach. All the more if the GA is not resurected.
- everyone would know it was handled in the open, and would know about it.
End of JWs. Very strong warning to the clone maker.

Jefsey


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