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Re: [icann-eu] [ecdiscuss] Re: Horrible young sites
Harald and All,
First, is it normal to have such an whois info published:
Registrant:
none
N.J.
N.J., N.J. 12345678
US
Domain Name: YOUNGRUSSIAN.COM
Administrative Contact:
Menas, John youngrussian@usa.net
N.J.
N.J., N.J. 12345678
US
456-7895
Technical Contact:
Menas, John youngrussian@usa.net
N.J.
N.J., N.J. 12345678
US
456-7895
Billing Contact:
Menas, John youngrussian@usa.net
N.J.
N.J., N.J. 12345678
US
456-7895
> So the right place to send complaints about this is to US police.
In such a case, nothing more than close the site can be expected.
First bis: Only for closing, how long will it take? The URL here has been
relayed to us lists and other organizations for a while now, the site is
still open, nobody as tools to perform anything and nobody is responsible.
second, when I tarceroute something strange happens:
traceroute to www.youngrussian.com (209.40.101.28), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 nic-gw () 2.646 ms 1.606 ms 1.237 ms
2 rocq-gw.inria.fr (192.93.1.100) 3.855 ms 2.201 ms 4.183 ms
3 192.93.122.3 (192.93.122.3) 1.391 ms 1.966 ms 1.091 ms
4 stlambert1.rerif.ft.net (193.48.53.225) 5.366 ms 10.586 ms 9.670 ms
5 stamand1.rerif.ft.net (193.48.53.101) 4.637 ms 2.468 ms 2.213 ms
6 nio-i.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.206.145) 3.372 ms 2.919 ms 5.225 ms
7 193.51.206.30 (193.51.206.30) 3.433 ms 2.998 ms 2.940 ms
8 P2-0.PASBB2.Paris.opentransit.net (193.251.128.65) 3.325 ms 5.297 ms 5.160 ms
9 P0-3.NYKBB1.NewYork.opentransit.net (193.251.128.222) 970.471 ms 966.683 ms 970.271 ms
.....
18 covesoft-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.43.22) 179.965 ms 167.369 ms 176.302 ms
19 209.40.101.28 (209.40.101.28) 168.411 ms 171.998 ms 170.066 ms
Have you noticed, 8 gateways in France, does it mean that the problem is
also french?
I would be happy to have real answers to those questions.
Olivier
le 18 Nov, Harald Alvestrand a écrit :
> At 01:00 18/11/2000 +0100, Olivier Guillard / AFNIC wrote:
> >all,
> >
> >the original message of which I forward a part here after
> >contained 5 URL of the same sort.
> >
> >The Afnic receive many complains like those every week,
> >we take time to answer.
> >
> >Here is include the content of the associated whois data
> >for the domain. Notice the quality of this information!
> >
> >Notice also how the person is complaining: "it looks to be
> >amazingly horrible (titles)". I suppose that for this person
> >the domain name is not only a sequence of characters!
>
> his English is bad; it's a child porn site. I don't think he would mind the
> domain name if it was a government-sanctioned education program for russians...
>
>
> >I wouldn't feel confortable to see this kind of problem
> >under .fr, and less with no one identifyed behind this kind
> >of publications.
>
> You will get this problem often - this address was less well-faked than most.
> If he had taken care to invent something real-looking, the complainant
> would just have wasted more time, and maybe the price of a postage stamp.
>
> [tangential]
> But in cases of complaint, the answer is mostly to follow the packets....
> traceroute:
>
> >17 208.46.126.178 (208.46.126.178) 148.627 ms wdc-edge-06.inet.qwest.net
> >(205.171.24.118) 172.109 ms 208.46.126.174 (208.46.126.174) 139.263 ms
> >18 208.46.126.178 (208.46.126.178) 157.263 ms 208.46.126.174
> >(208.46.126.174) 162.808 ms 208.46.126.182 (208.46.126.182) 158.028 ms
> >19 151.196.149.2 (151.196.149.2) 197.709 ms 440.535 ms 526.435 ms
> >20 209.40.101.28 (209.40.101.28) 190.260 ms 151.196.149.2
> >(151.196.149.2) 208.892 ms
>
> it's a qwest.net customer, probably US based.
> The address block according to whois@whois.arin.net is registered to:
>
> Cove Software Systems Inc (NETBLK-COVE-NET-1)
> PO Box 2264
> Annapolis, MD 21401
> US
>
> Netname: COVE-NET-1
> Netblock: 209.40.96.0 - 209.40.127.255
>
> Coordinator:
> Shevenell, Mike (MS1417-ARIN) mike@www.covesoft.com
> 410 268 0935
>
>
> Harald
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, alvestrand@cisco.com
> +47 41 44 29 94
> Personal email: Harald@Alvestrand.no
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Olivier Guillard
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