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Re: [icann-eu] [ecdiscuss] Re: Horrible young sites
le 20 Nov, Harald Alvestrand a écrit :
> At 13:21 20/11/2000 +0100, Olivier Guillard / AFNIC wrote:
> >Harald and All,
> >
> >First, is it normal to have such an whois info published:
> >
> >Registrant:
> >
> > none
> >
> > N.J.
> >
> > N.J., N.J.
> > 12345678
> >
> > US
>
> no, it is stupid of NSI to allow such obviously fake information to remain.
NSI doesn't maintain any whois DB.
> but it would not help much if NSI did not allow obvious fakes, because
> there would still be fakes, just less obvious ones.
Depend how is maintained the DB, the question is what is the minimum of
quality that should be expected from the information published.
> >second, when I tarceroute something strange happens:
> >
> >traceroute to www.youngrussian.com (209.40.101.28), 30 hops max, 38 byte
> >packets
> > 1 nic-gw () 2.646 ms 1.606 ms 1.237 ms
> > 2 rocq-gw.inria.fr (192.93.1.100) 3.855 ms 2.201 ms 4.183 ms
> > 3 192.93.122.3 (192.93.122.3) 1.391 ms 1.966 ms 1.091 ms
> > 4 stlambert1.rerif.ft.net (193.48.53.225) 5.366 ms 10.586 ms 9.670 ms
> > 5 stamand1.rerif.ft.net (193.48.53.101) 4.637 ms 2.468 ms 2.213 ms
> > 6 nio-i.cssi.renater.fr (193.51.206.145) 3.372 ms 2.919 ms 5.225 ms
> > 7 193.51.206.30 (193.51.206.30) 3.433 ms 2.998 ms 2.940 ms
> > 8 P2-0.PASBB2.Paris.opentransit.net (193.251.128.65) 3.325 ms 5.297
> > ms 5.160 ms
> > 9 P0-3.NYKBB1.NewYork.opentransit.net (193.251.128.222) 970.471
> > ms 966.683 ms 970.271 ms
> >.....
> >18 covesoft-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.43.22) 179.965 ms 167.369
> >ms 176.302 ms
> >19 209.40.101.28 (209.40.101.28) 168.411 ms 171.998 ms 170.066 ms
> >
> >Have you noticed, 8 gateways in France, does it mean that the problem is
> >also french?
>
> No, it means that there are a lot of French routers between you and the
> operator of the transatlantic cable.
>
> More interesting is the fact that you got a traceroute through a different
> provider than I did; this means that the guy is multiply connected, and
> gives more leads for the police to track him down - if they can be made
> interested.
This is not my role to perform this kind of investigation.
>
> At one time the site www.childporn.com (!) contained information on how to
> deal with this, I believe (together with links to the "socially
> responsible" legal porn sites who were sponsoring the site....sigh...). But
> that was long ago....
>
> >I would be happy to have real answers to those questions.
>
> wouldn't we all.... to my mind, something is strange; the police is using a
> great deal of resource on advocating legalized wiretaps for fighting child
> porn, and then a site such as this sit right out in the open for long
> times. Something does not seem right.....the more paranoid among us would
> suspect a honeypot; give your credit card and be arrested.....but I'm not
> that paranoid. Yet.
Are you wondering about the interest of a police entity in a human
society?
>
> --
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, alvestrand@cisco.com
> +47 41 44 29 94
> Personal email: Harald@Alvestrand.no
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Olivier