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[fwd] Re: [ICANN-EU] Stay @large candidates (from: jefsey@wanadoo.fr)
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- From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:29:53 +0200
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Mis-addressed.
----- Forwarded message from Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr> -----
From: Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
To: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:23:08 +0200
Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] Stay @large candidates
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Dear Thomas and all,
I just came back from vacations and spent the night reading
this ML exchanges and DNSO [ga]. I felt asleep: please wake up!
1) IMHO few of the candidates read about the ICANN history,
bylaws, duties etc.. In my understanding ICANN has never
been about democracy, but about democratic results. Dr.
Postel has never been elected. Why would we? This election
is biased. You quoted several points: I will add three: how
many people received their PIN? Why only 5% of the
German voted yet? Can we consider as "democratic"
the voter split per country? ... And then? We known before :-)!
2) IMHO this election is a "stay @ large" operation.
The ICANN's charter is to proceed by consensus. They test
if they may still fake a consensus whith a large audience
(they hoped to have only 5.000 voters. They sent 35.000 PIN
in time; but this is large for them). If they can their interest
to see EUROCANN, ASIACANN, etc. emerging and protecting
them (this is what you do with your projected ML.) If this is
not possible the ICANN will become a governance:
a stable body, with minimum interferences, protected by the
GAC. So if we are active: they will make us a local comity
supposedly supporting "our" (single) director. If we are not
they will have their own candidates elected.
3) I never read anything in here about the ICANN most important
job: the IP addressing plan. They have no money for it, nor any
competence and experience and billions of IP addresses to
organize to respond banking, telephone, ISP, etc.. industries;
governments demands, justice requirements, privacy obligations
etc... In regards TLD are peanuts and will be long forgotten
while the IP addressing scheme mistakes will still create far
more important problems than today DNS.
4) I read and reread things about domain names, WIPO, etc...
There is no other problem about DNS, domain names, etc..
than the DNSO. I am sorry Roberto, but the DNSO mostly
spent its time talking about its own organization and now
about checking the way it is organized. There are far more
important issues (the drift the DNSO allowed will be a real
problem):
- how is it possible (looking into the bylaws) that the ICANN
may organize its TLD rigmarole? Did you vote for it? What
were the results? Where is the consensus?
- why as not the DNSO elaborated for the BoD about the
meaning of the "unique root" concept by IA Blair and RFC???.
This lack of explanation is leading to a costly dead end. Millions
spent on ".com" domain names are worth nothing and some
day the bill will have to be footed by the ICANN/DNSO.
Not in money but in credibility and probably at the NASDAQ
(the .com economy is ill named). The idea is "if there were
several roots, people would not go to the page intended by
the author". Good! this is exactly what value added is about:
"depending on the root I sell you your users will go where
the author wants them to go, or where you want them to go".
There is a new industry there.
- the only job for the ICANN is to make sure the Root System
works properly. Good. God bless them! There are months I do
not use it anymore. Did you make sure you still use it:
Bill Gates could have made your IE to use the MSRoot
System, you would not know. Do you know if your ISP uses
it? Try existing hundreds of altenative TLDs: you might be
surprised.
- a domain name is only a private convention established
between a site and its users, helped by the registry through
their semi private service of maintenance of the private host.txt
file. There are many potential services offerings. What has
the WIPO to do with them? The confusion should
have been cleared a long ago. The IP problems only result
from the undue commercial use in a country of a registered
trade mark in the national online service class (unfortunate,
but cybersquatters are right!).
5) I read about the expenses. We need the ICANN to have money
to achieve its job (mainly IP addressing, DNSO Root System,
as the default root). This money will be either private or public.
If you want the public money not to step in you have to pour
over private money. The ICANN understand it with their K$ 50
forced ill worked out donation scheme. The issue is not to
know if the candidates will get or not travel expanses, but if
the budget necessary to their first class travels (they work for
you for free) will come from smart and honnest or from stupid
and illegal schemes like the K$ 50 one. Or am I wrong?
6) I read concerns about national ML, language issues, unfair
advertising, personal attacks, etc... IMHO we are in the real
world. Our duty is to face these problems in an efficient way
not to lock them out?
7) I also found considerations about private interest, ISP costs,
cookies, privacy, etc.. I feel all them are of real interest and
very appropriate, even if they may interest only one or two
persons. The ICANN must be a secretariat for consensus.
Fro that it needs competent peace makers: difficulties may
arise from anywhere during negotiations. Having BoD members
with interests and competences in every network fields is of
the essence. We cannot claim that current BoD misses
competences and not try that next BoD Members are
competent on the widest number of subjects.
I apologize for being long and probably icannoclast. If we want
this ML to survive as a possible euro-governance partner, we
need it to be active and imaginative.
All the best to you.
Jefsey Morfin
http://utel.net/jefsey.htm
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