Re: [icann-candidates] Re: [ICANN-EU] Article 31

["Constantine S. Chassapis" <cschassapis@acm.org>]

Dear Jefsey,

Thank you for your comments and your rephrasing of A31.
As you may observe from the two message lists in which I
participate, I am receiving a great number of messages on
the subject and I am giving myself one day on that particular
subject before I do or say or write something. I have to do
some very serious thinking.

Best regards,
Constantin Chassapis


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
To: Constantine S. Chassapis <cschassapis@acm.org>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [icann-candidates] Re: [ICANN-EU] Article 31


> Constantine,
> I think your idea is just great! The received remark is quite
> pertinent too. May I suggest a different wording responding
> to both your concept and may be enlarging it (the technics
> and words may change in the future):
> 
> Article 31 (proposed addition).
> 
>     Everyone has rights to education, access, exchange and
>     protection [of privacy, dignity and property] in electronic
>     relations and information [a major area for human, social
>     and economic development].
> 
> The style of the text is very terse and general. Up to you to
> tell if the words between brackets are necessary?
> Beware that this declaration starts with "equal and dignity"
> so the repetition of these words must be carefully considered
> not to reduce the weight of the initial acticle.
> Jefsey
> 
> 
> PS to Roberto: I share your exasperation at spam, but may I
> recall you that TV commercials and internet banners may be
> easily construed as spam. In such a text, only undisputed
> general concepts should be used. It is up to judges according
> to local laws to decide (remember please the ICANN release
> about the Californian anti-spam law a few days ago). I am more
> exasperated at some anti spammer actions: black listing
> among others which costed me more than $10.000 last week,
> the ISP of a my correspondant being black listed.
> 
> At 03:13 28/08/00, you wrote:
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Erik Moeller <moeller@scireview.de>
> >To: <icann-europe@fitug.de>
> >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] Article 31
> >
> >
> > > On 28 Aug 2000, at 1:59, Constantine S. Chassapis wrote:
> >
> > > > "Article 31":
> > > >  "Every human being has the right freely to receive material
> > > >   from and freely to transmit material to the cyberspace,
> > > >   currently known as the Internet."
> > > The inevitable response: "But what about kiddie porn?"
> >
> >Dear Erik,
> >Very good point! If I will manage to elucidate that, I will
> >give more essence to Article 31 (A31 hereon).
> >
> >I first answer you with the articles
> >A1:  All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
> >They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act
> >towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
> >A3:  Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
> >A16.3:  The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society
> >and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
> >A25.2:  Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and
> >assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall
> >enjoy the same social protection.
> >A26.2:  Education shall be directed to the full development of the human
> >personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and
> >fundamental freedoms.
> >
> >As my A31 is a principle, so are those that I quoted above.
> >
> >That means that if the above articles are self-evident and protect
> >the children and educate the grown-ups, so self-evident seems to
> >me my A31. I cannot set up a police-oriented principle. It is
> >the duty of all local societies or countries, at start, and of the
> >whole humanity next, to try to eradicate child porn. This is not just
> >words. We must separate principles of human existence from
> >methodologies to define and attack the evil. I might as well add
> >an A32 saying that child porn is illegal, is immoral, is disgusting,
> >is inhuman, is ... but all these are consequences of all the articles
> >above. If organized societies and their institutions fulfil their
> >principal duties as expressed in the articles above, if we,
> >all humans understand and follow the above principles,
> >then, we will make a better world! My A31 also speaks
> >of a better world.
> >
> >The world changes, society and technology change one another
> >and from the epoch of the December 10th, 1948, to the August
> >28th, 2000, a new player is in the game, it is called cyberspace, and
> >I am feeling that it is, or will soon become, as important as the
> >air we are breathing. After that thought, the next logical step is A31.
> >Article 31 guarantees so many things that we need many emails
> >to discuss, and I will be happy to do so. But it is my feeling that
> >you needed to hear from me my views on child porn, and I think,
> >it is clear from all my argumentation how bad I feel about that.
> >
> >In other words, I hope that you see that if we all (including our
> >institutions) follow, support, believe and promote articles 1 to 30,
> >then child porn will be erased from humanity <small>(except maybe
> >in pathological cases, I mean ill people, in which case, maybe cure
> >can be applied using virtual reality techniques; but this is a totally
> >different story)</small>.
> >
> >But, articles 1 to 30 do not induce the guaranteeing of what
> >A31 guarantees. This is why I wrote it and I will try to promote.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Constantin Chassapis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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