Re: [ICANN-EU] European At Large Council

[lutz@iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)]

* Andy Mueller-Maguhn wrote:
>So my idea would not be to have a closed group through an election but an
>open forum trying to enable participation for european users - if they are
>ALM or not - , user groups and NGOīs. ALM is something quiete new compared
>to other user groups and NGOīs who exist for a long time in europe.

Yep. But I prefer a open ML and self organisation.

>I think the main point is, that such a european communication plattform,
>forum, council, call-it-like-you-want makes sense itself, getting european
>user groups closer together, adressing issues to politics, to the media
>and not only to ICANN. When you look at special issues like "lawful
>interception" (that european echelon stuff) it might be important to
>adress ETSI as well as ICANN. And/or IETF. And/Or all european ISPīs.
>And/or european parliament (copyright controll discussion).

Please do not overload it. It will break. There are other groups which are
active on these issues (you mentioned it).

[regional groups found different conclutions]
>And to avoid exactly this we need physical regulary meetings in different
>european places on the issues to be adressed to ICANN. Mailing lists and
>News Groups are great to get an broad band diversity of ideas and 
>opinions, but if we need to concentrate on finding a concensus, solution 
>and/or clear statement to a question, itīs much easier in real life and/or
>on a mailing list with a clear focus on that.

I doubt it. Such physical meetings come up with a consensus of those people
who travel to every meeting in the world, most experts do not. So I prefer
mailinglits and in the case of a urgent decision a phone conference.
Physical meetings have to be prepared before and after the meetings only to
get the main results from informal discussions in the evening.