AW: [ICANN-EU] [Q&A] the exciting adventures of a nominee

[SchultzKom@t-online.de (Christian Schultz Kommunalberatung)]

 Dear Andrew,

 your letter to Joop contains the sentence: "Therefore, the mailing address
used for the PIN letters....".

Can you imagine what my thoughts are after complaining the lack of the
possibility to activate my membership without any reaction of you?
Once more: if only 23.479 european @Large members of 35.942 have activated
their membership till 8.9., some, perhaps most of them can say they have had
no possibility to give their endorsement to someone of the candidates. If
they didnīt have got the damned PIN they will ask like me, why ??
And if thousands didnīt get their PIN, you perhaps understands me when I ask
you if this was  only a neglect.....

Please tell all members what has happened with the mailing of the PINs!! At
least you should ask everyone - of the not activated members - if he still
wants a PIN or not. Probably you will read a lot of demands.  Itīs a pity
but you should do this soon that all members have or can get the impression
that the election has a democratic basis.

Best regards

Christian Schultz

RA, StD.a.D., Kommunalberatung
58097 Hagen, Kammannstr. 18
Tel.: 02331 - 843407, Fax: 02331 - 843408
SchultzKom@t-online.de-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-icann-europe@fitug.de [mailto:owner-icann-europe@fitug.de]Im
Auftrag von Jeff Williams
Gesendet: Montag, 11. September 2000 20:49
An: mclaughlin@pobox.com
Cc: Joop Teernstra; icann-europe@fitug.de; icann board address; ICANN
Comments
Betreff: Re: [ICANN-EU] [Q&A] the exciting adventures of a nominee


Andrew and all,

Andrew McLaughlin wrote:

> Joop:
>
> There's no mistake.  You are a resident of Asia/Pacific.  Voting is
defined
> by residency.  Therefore you fall within Asia/Pacific for purposes of
> voting.  Candidacy is defined by citizenship.  Therefore, you fall within
> Europe for purposes of candidacy.

  And this is a very good example of gerrymandering!  Disgusting!  :(

>
>
> This cannot be news to you -- this structure has been discussed and
debated
> since the very first ICANN meeting in Singapore.  You should review the
> various multimedia meeting archives, where you will find lots of
discussion
> of this odd structure.  The Bylaws, representing an essential element of
the
> underlying ICANN compromises from 1998, required that at least one
Director
> be a citizen of each geographic region.  Citizenship is the test for
> Directors, therefore citizenship must be the test for candidates &
nominees.
> However, ICANN does not have the capacity (with our one At Large staff
> person) to verify citizenship of individual At Large members.
> Therefore, the mailing address used for the PIN letters provides the basis
for regional
> assignment of members.> Is that a clear explanation?
>
> Best regards,
>
> --Andrew
>
> [ -----Original Message-----
> [ From: Joop Teernstra [mailto:terastra@terabytz.co.nz]
> [ Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:59 PM
> [ To: mclaughlin@pobox.com; Griffini Giorgio
> [ Cc: icann-europe@fitug.de; Jeanette Hofmann
> [ Subject: RE: [ICANN-EU] [Q&A] the exciting adventures of a nominee
> [
> [
> [ Andrew,
> [
> [ You know that I have protested, lastly in Yokohama, about the
> [ discrimination against expatriates, due to the silly citizenship rules.
> [
> [ These rules create in fact a new "constituency", that of expatriate
> [ European and North American members.
> [
> [ Now I find out that I can only support European candidates (fine, no
> [ problem, I'll get used to it) BUT I CANNOT ASK THEM QUESTIONS THROUGH
THE
> [ NEW WEB INTERFACE.
> [
> [ Upon login, I am forced into the Asia/Pacific area, where I am resident.
> [
> [ Could you please fix this anomalous segregation and let this list
> [ know when
> [ it is fixed?
> [
> [
> [
> [
> [ --Joop--
> [ www.idno.org
> [
> [

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--
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