Re: [ICANN-EU] US Government's ultimate control.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Alf and all

Alf Hansen wrote:

> Joop,
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
> ...
> >
> > >> But we are still left with the problem of definition, mechanism and proof.
> > >
> > >Yes. I am trying to focus on the transition-from-USG-process. The
> > >transition will never take place until WE are able to present an
> > >alternative structure.
> >
> > Alf, may I presume that you mean:  to fix what we already have?
> >
>
> YES, sorry if that was unclear. I should have said: "...until WE are
> able to present an alternative "ownwer" structure".
>
> > Providing an alternative structure  is exactly what I have done
> > bootstrapping the IDNO, with the help of a few dedicated volunteers.  The
> > structure is for a specific interest group (the Ind DN holders) but the
> > effort of building it and guarding it against capture during the
> > rule-building stage is the same.
> > It is non-trivial effort.
> > You will find out when we in ICANN Europe try to structure ourselves.
>
> I know it is non-trivial, but we have to do it.
>
> ...
>
> >
> > >If the ICANN Board could present a plan with a timescale,
> > >based on advice from the At-Large and/or the SOs, that would be nice...
> >
> > How can the At-Large give advice before it has any structure?
>
> Well, we have to start somewhere.... and 5 elected Board members is a
> start. And the icann-europe -list is the start of the European At Large
> forum.

  The problem is that the election going on as I type this is a fraud, Alf.
So how is that a start?

>
>
> >
> > ( Rather than having this dialogue with Alf alone, I would like to hear how
> > Jeanette and Andy MM see this dilemma)
> >
> > -- if the Board cannot be trusted to dictate a balanced structure from the
> > top down,  how much time would you give the At large body  to come up with
> > a structure from the bottom -up?
> > Would the EU elected Board member be willing to act as bootstrap?
>
> I cerainly will. That is why I initiated this discussion in the first
> place, to show you that at least one of the candidates thinks this is
> important...

  Nice political statement Alf! >;)

>
>
> Best regards,
> --
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