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Re: [ICANN-EU] .EU

Dear all,
Many thanks to Roberto.
This discussion about .eu or .ue, around a geographical definition or another one is a very strange discussion.
I remember since a few days that, something like twenty years ago, on european cars had frequently a sticker "EU". In the circle of  this sticker "EU",  were all the flags of the countries members of the European Union at the moment. Each time, when came a new country inside the Union, there were a new sticker "EU". I think that these stickers were before the blue European flag with its dozain of stars -remember that the stars of this flag do not represent  the countries, and see the history of this flag, it's also interesting, with religious references...-
Well, for all the automobilists of Europe, "EU" was European Union, and not Europe like a geographical territory from "the Atlantic to the Oural" !!!
It's sure that many countries of this territories would like to come inside EU but, definitly, EU is European Union, and it's not a scoop.
I would like to say  also that, for some of our american friends, United States of America, are "the states"; frequently, american people tell something like  "I'll go back to the States tomorrow, or I had a call from the States yesterday"...
If there is an international nomeclature like ISO, it's because it's absolutly necessary. And, last but not least, for the money question, you can see three letters for each money every where in the point of change : FRF for French Franc, USD for American Dollar, DEM for Deutch Mark, HUF for Hungarian Forint, and EUR for European Euro, like wrote very well Roberto.
So,why this discussion around the .eu ?
Thank you Roberto, thank you.
Now, I propose a new point for the reflexion :
A new TLD .eu, why not, but what to do ? Who really needs this TLD ? What is the ambition for  this TLD ? What conditions can you imagine for domain names on this TLD ? Will it be free ? Will it be reserved to the enterprises ? European enterprises only ? Why ? What sort of controls will be create for that ? What sort of administration do you imagine ? Will Tziganes people and enterprises be accepted ?
Give us the policy of this TLD and we will imagine how many domain names will be active on the .eu in a few years...
Best regards to all.
Michel
 

Roberto Gaetano a écrit :

Jefsey, Alexander,

>
>At 10:43 30/09/00, you wrote:
>>Dear Jefsey,
>>sorry to disagree once more! ;)
>> > 1. The .eu string was ill chosen and never discussed. As considered on
>>the
>> > icann-fra ML the Brussels document asked question about
>> >      the management of ".eu" never on the choice of ".eu". In French
>>and
>> > spanish "EU" means Etats Unis or Estados Unidos, ie. USA.
>>I think, in Spanish the USA abbreviation is EEUU.
>>Additionally, e.g. .FR is not an abbreviation, but the
>>/beginning/ of the word FRance. Same applies to .DEutschland,
>>.ITalia, .ESpaña. So .EUrope would not be that illogical...

If we get into latin vs. anglo-saxon, or abbreviations and acronims, we will
never end (BTW, has anybody noticed that US for latin countries could mean
"Union Sovietique"?).
The ISO code for Europe had been chosen long before ICANN came to existence,
so .eu is not "negotiable" as ccTLD.
Moreover, it can only be assigned to the entity identified by ISO, which is
the European Union, not geographical Europe.
It will be sensible for the Commission to extend the usage to geographical
Europe (following public enquiry on the subject), but they are by no means
obliged to do so.

>
>What I mainly say is that the extensive Brussels' study on .eu was
>about the management of the TLD not on its designation.

Agree on this, and on large parts of the sentences snipped.
>.......

>> > (http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/new02_00.html)
>>
>> > This means that the ".eu" is not actually a country but a money.
>>Denmark
>> > and UK are supposed not to be confused withe Euro.
>>The reserved code element /was/ meant for the money, but
>>now it is to be used for the European Union. That is the
>>advice the ISO 3166-1 maintenance agency gives.
>
>Yes. This is why it is ill chosen. We could have had ".eu" for the
>Europe and maybe ".ue" or ".ecom", or ".eur" for Europe. Anyone
>is able to see that it would have meant some additional value and
>synergy both for the Euro and for Europe.

Sorry, but according to ISO, "EU" is for the European Union, not for the
Euro (please note "European Union", not "Europe", as spelled out in the
reference above). The ISO4217 code for the Euro is "EUR".

This, of course, does not exclude the possibility of having another TLD for
a different purpose (I like .ecom - as for .ue and .eur they will be
inevitably rejected as, respectively, potential ISO3166 code and current
ISO4217 code).

Regards
Roberto

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