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Re: [ICANN-EU] LA @large meeting preparation - Action Points List
- To: Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>
- Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] LA @large meeting preparation - Action Points List
- From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:23:16 +0200
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On 2000-10-16 02:56:25 +0200, Jefsey Morfin wrote:
> Point 2. Election of the 4 pending ALDs by a worldwide unique
> constituency, ASAP. One Director maximum per region.
Have you checked whether there are any plans on this at ICANN?
> Point 3. The ICANN @large site should introduce and link every
> self-constituted @large site and MLs overthe
> world.
Frankly, I wouldn't expect this to happen any time soon. However, I
do believe that the directors may now lend their legitimacy to
"supporting fora", and could possibly be helpful by pressuring ICANN
officials on this topic.
> Point 6. A permanent polling system of the @large Members will
> be installed. Any group will be allowed to use it
> at will.
This will open up the way for Denial of Service Attacks against a
voting infrastructure. In particular, the few At Large members
which can be expected to participate will at some point get bored,
and stop voting.
> This system will accept questions from groups and
> permit group members to vote yes/no/veto
> documenting their veto position. It will be
> permitted to change questions and votes to progress
> towards consensus.
Eh? You mean, it will be possible to submit new questions.
"Changing questions" while a vote is in progress would make the
entire thing unusable.
> The groups will be able to use this for internal
> decisions or elections as well as for progressively
> escalating propositions towards a general consensus.
> This is an RFC like process extended to a worldwide
> democratic approach.
Provided the membership is representative. We had this discussion
before: Just counting votes will lead to distorted results unless
you get a large part of the "public" involved. We shouldn't be
overly optimistic about that involvement; thus, At Large
organizations will most likely be forced into a model which is
mostly about documenting arguments, and possibly dissent.
> Point 8. The @large constituency needs a budget.
... paid for by whom? You are certainly right that an at large
constituency based on individuals' commitment and free time will not
work properly.
> No clear action point has been reached on this.
> Gupta, Vottorio have discussed it. The point has
> been risen by others. One suggestion is to have
> them self-organizing and each PIN holder to
> designate the chapter he joins. The chapters would
> have a budget from the ICANN on this basis, or
> could get their own sponsors as per common
> selection criteria.
> Point 9. The @large assembly in LA needs a chair
This can - most likely - be left to those who organize the meeting.
They have some natural right to chair it.
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Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>