Re: [ICANN-EU] LA @large meeting preparation - Action Points List

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jeanette and all,

  Well I hope you do run again Jeanette.  >;)  Your ideas are needed
badly.

Jeanette Hofmann wrote:

> > > Point 2.  Election of the 4 pending ALDs by a worldwide unique
> > >               constituency, ASAP. One Director maximum per region.
>
> Excuse me, but I disagree with the "one director max. per region" rule. Either
> we go for a global election and accept the voters' decision with all the
> shortcomings implied or we reject such a model for its lack of
> representativeness. In the latter case, I'd question the kind of restrictions
> imposed on the voters' will. As you surely know, there won't be any woman on
> ICANN's board after the ALM directors are seated. Unlike the representation
> of Africa, that of women will be zero! I find this at least as disturbing as a
> regional imbalance. Hence, I wouldn't support any form of region-based
> restrictions.
>
> Just for clarification: it goes without saying that this is not about me. It's rather
> unlikely anyway that I'd run again for a board's seat anytime soon.
>
> jeanette
>
> > Have you checked whether there are any plans on this at ICANN?
> >
> > > Point 3.  The ICANN @large site should introduce and link every
> > >             self-constituted @large site and MLs overthe
> > >             world.
> >
> > Frankly, I wouldn't expect this to happen any time soon.  However, I
> > do believe that the directors may now lend their legitimacy to
> > "supporting fora", and could possibly be helpful by pressuring ICANN
> > officials on this topic.
> >
> > > Point 6.  A permanent polling system of the @large Members will
> > >            be installed. Any group will be allowed to use it
> > >            at will.
> >
> > This will open up the way for Denial of Service Attacks against a
> > voting infrastructure.  In particular, the few At Large members
> > which can be expected to participate will at some point get bored,
> > and stop voting.
> >
> > >            This system will accept questions from groups and
> > >            permit group members to vote yes/no/veto
> > >            documenting their veto position. It will be
> > >            permitted to change questions and votes to progress
> > >            towards consensus.
> >
> > Eh?  You mean, it will be possible to submit new questions.
> > "Changing questions" while a vote is in progress would make the
> > entire thing unusable.
> >
> > >              The groups will be able to use this for internal
> > >           decisions or elections as well as for progressively
> > >           escalating propositions towards a general consensus.
> > >           This is an RFC like process extended to a worldwide
> > >           democratic approach.
> >
> > Provided the membership is representative.  We had this discussion
> > before: Just counting votes will lead to distorted results unless
> > you get a large part of the "public" involved.  We shouldn't be
> > overly optimistic about that involvement; thus, At Large
> > organizations will most likely be forced into a model which is
> > mostly about documenting arguments, and possibly dissent.
> >
> > > Point 8.  The @large constituency needs a budget.
> >
> > ... paid for by whom?  You are certainly right that an at large
> > constituency based on individuals' commitment and free time will not
> > work properly.
> >
> > >               No clear action point has been reached on this.
> > >            Gupta, Vottorio have discussed it. The point has
> > >            been risen by others. One suggestion is to have
> > >            them self-organizing and each PIN holder to
> > >            designate the chapter he joins. The chapters would
> > >            have a budget from the ICANN on this basis, or
> > >            could get their own sponsors as per common
> > >            selection criteria.
> >
> >
> > > Point 9.  The @large assembly in LA needs a chair
> >
> > This can - most likely - be left to those who organize the meeting.
> > They have some natural right to chair it.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Roessler                         <roessler@does-not-exist.org>

Regards,

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