Re: [ICANN-EU] Disclosure of ICANN At Large Membership information

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Mike and all,

  Oh bullshit Mike!  And you know it too!  You stated in a wired article
in July of 1998 that stakeholders will never have any decision making
ability!  So please stop the BS will ya guy!  Jeeezzz

Mike Roberts wrote:

> For those of you in Europe wondering what this particular bit of
> byplay is all about, it is a fact that under the non-profit
> corporation law of the State of California, a nonprofit corporation
> may elect to have members, or not to have members.
>
> Following substantial public discussion in connection with the MAC
> report in Berlin in May, 1999, the Board made an affirmative,
> unanimous decision to remain a non-membership corporation.  It
> continues to hold that view at this time.  The interests of the
> multiple stakeholders in ICANN are set forth in the Bylaws, along
> with numerous protections for those interests, which include the
> Article III provisions on public notice and comment, reconsideration
> and independent review.
>
> See the same citation I gave this morning, and other MAC documents
> for more background.
>
> <http://www.icann.org/macberlin.htm>
>
> ICANN has not, and will not, violate any laws.   The Board and the
> CEO get excellent legal advice, and they follow it.
>
> Karl obviously has strongly held views about the type of At Large
> organization ICANN should have.  Others have theirs as well.  If
> there is merit in those views, they will surely gather support in
> coming months during the study process and subsequent decisions on
> the future of At Large membership.
>
> - Mike
>
> At 14:45 -0800 11/11/00, Karl Auerbach wrote:
> >JIM FLEMING wrote:
> >
> >>  According to some ICANN Board members, ALL of the ICANN
> >>  records will be made public.
> >
> >Actually there's more to it than that.  The California Corporations code
> >clearly says that members of a corporation, i.e. the people who vote in
> >an election for board seats, have the clear right to obtain the
> >membership list.
> >
> >The California legislature has determined that the right of the electors
> >in a corporate election to organize among themselves to fully exercise
> >their franchise supersedes any right of privacy that those electors may
> >claim with regard to the fact of their membership.  This is nothing
> >unique to the laws of California - this kind of provision is found in
> >the corporations codes of many jurisdictions.
> >
> >If ICANN has a beef with this ICANN ought not violate California law -
> >rather, ICANN should go to Sacramento and try to induce the legislature
> >to change the law.
> >
> >I am completely fed up with ICANN's shell game in which it is trying
> >every step possible to emasculate even the concept of an effective
> >at-large.
> >
> >     --karl--

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