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Re: [ICANN-EU] Interview with ICANN director Helmut Schink
- To: Gerhard Wendebourg <gwhh@gmx.de>
- Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] Interview with ICANN director Helmut Schink
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:15:03 -0800
- CC: arne@gerners.net, "icann-europe@fitug.de" <icann-europe@fitug.de>
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Gerhard and all,
Very astute thinking here Gerhard! Well done!
Gerhard Wendebourg wrote:
> It's very obvious - after we look at the acting and talking of the actual
> ICANN-Administration, that they are not willing, that real democratic rules
> will take place there, or to give the Internet-User serious participation.
> I think, that the decision to have the At Large election was to try out, if
> one might have some democratic legitimation to the ICANN, without the
> danger, to get relevant changes in the recent policy or to the priority of
> the commercial interests.
>
> Now they saw, that this kind of legitimation is not as cheap, they hoped,
> it might be, but there are rising demands for an real participation and
> regards to civil rights of the non-commercial Net-User.
> So of course they try a roll-back of the intention to let some democracy
> take place in the Net - and we should not wonder about this: its a very
> normally reaction, if things not run as one like it to.
>
> The question is: what will WE do with this situation (and if I say "we" I
> think of the people, which take the (cilvil) rights of the net-citizen and
> the rules of democracy not for a marginality).
> Will we use the ways to fight for net-citizen rights and their free
> (name-)space, or will we accept to be treated as some "freaks" (H.Schink),
> that are not really worth, to have an eye on.
>
> One of the ways is of course the etablishing and publishing of alternate
> root-servers:
> if the At Large Community (?!) decides to support them instead of dealing
> with an ICANN-Administration, where a user-participation is not really
> intended, maybe the day will come, when the ICANN looks at an growing
> paralell (alternate) universe, that is no more object to their administrating.
> We would so have an ICANN-commercial-Internet-Community on one side and on
> the other an At Large-Net-Citizen-Community from people, that are ruling
> and administrating themselves.
> If things like this are really on the way, the ICANN might take a new look
> on the situation and think, that Users / At Large-Members are worth, to
> have some regards to.
>
> At 18:34 11.11.00 +0100, arne@gerners.net wrote:
> >Dear All,
> >
> >There is an interesting interview with Helmut Schink on heise online (in
> >german)
> >see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-11.11.00-002/
> >He was sent by the ITU to the ICANN board and basicaly he says, ICANN is
> >no technical organisation, but mainly political (technical standards are
> >made elsewhere). He's not sure if At-Large Membership is a good idea.
> >
> >Regard, Arne
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------
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