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[ICANN-EU] Re: Excessive crosspostings

Thomas Roessler schrieb:

> For your information: Messages which have overly long header fields
> are routinely blocked by majordomo (sample included).  I'm not going
> to approve such messages for forwarding to the list, as I'm
> considering them excessive crossposting.

I strongly agree and support any policy to make icann-europe more readable
and useful. I suggest our well known crossposters take the burden and set
up a list of other useful ressources to put on a website. But stop
crossposting this list (and others) to dead.
 
> Additionally, someone has asked me whether or not it's sensible to
> think about a stricter posting policy, given the rush of
> crosspostings in the recent past.  I think it is.

Full support.
 
> Options we have include these:
> 
> - Restrict posting to those subscribed to the list.  This may help
>   to cut off threads evolving from such cross-posting.  However, it
>   will also have adverse effects on legitimately cross-posted
>   discussions.  I'd advise against this.

I would even support this measure as it is obvious that some people post,
but dont react. I guess we have enough readers who may legitimately
crosspost interesting information from time to time without spamming routinely.

> - Match messages to, say, 10 or 15 addresses in one header, and
>   block them - with the option to approve messages which look
>   legitimate.  This could easily be implemented, and would have few
>   effects on legitimate discussions.  Additionally, I could still
>   approve messages which have just collected an impressive number of
>   CC recipients due to people using group-reply.  I'd suggest we
>   implement this.

Yes.
 
> - Block messages crossposted to the domain-policy list.  That list
>   has a "restricted posting" policy anyways, so replying to such
>   crosspostings won't make any sense for many of the subscribers to
>   icann-europe.  I'd _strongly_ suggest to implement this measure.

Yes.
 
> Obviously, this won't work against determined noise-makers and
> multi-posters, but it may help to make things a bit more difficult
> for them. ;-)

We may always plonk them as I already did with about three, which makes
the list much more readable even if some interesting information gets lost
sometimes.

Kind regards and thanks for the flame bait,

Patrick Mayer


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http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111200-3.html

"Crocker: Worried that those trying to block the process will do so with
lawsuits, leverage with USG and California government, etc."

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Dave,

In over 5 years of these debates, in my opinion, YOU certainly would be in
the
Top 10 People on the net who have assisted in "blocking" these processes.
You
were even singled out in a report to the White House[1]. It is a known fact
that
your brother Steve attended the same High School with Jon Postel and Vint
Cerf.
It is still not clear what your association is with Vint Cerf, who is on the
ICANN
Board.[2]

[1]>http://www.ispc.org/policy/filings/eop19980312.shtml
>
> "Because of their consistent negative public demeanor and abusive
> attacks..."
>
>@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[2] http://www.dcrocker.net/mcimail/index.html

With this as a background, and assuming you are in agreement that you have
assisted in blocking these processes for years,...Are you saying aboved and
at the ICANN meeting that you now intend to try to block these processes
with legal actions ?....if so, why would you and/or associates do that
?...why
do people like yourself and Vint Cerf participate in forums where people are
trying to expand people's participation while you attempt to block the
process..?
..is this some sort of memorial to Jon Postel ?...who did the same thing...


Jim Fleming
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