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Re: [icann-eu] Summary
- To: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>, Barbara Simons <simons@acm.org>
- Subject: Re: [icann-eu] Summary
- From: "Jeanette Hofmann" <jeanette@medea.wz-berlin.de>
- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:54:45 +0100
- CC: Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang@imv.au.dk>, icann-europe@fitug.de, members-meeting list <members-meeting@egroups.com>
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- In-reply-to: <20001204151536.A32262@sobolev.does-not-exist.org>
- Organization: Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin
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> -> Could we imagine consensus on a model like the one Roberto
> Gaetano suggested? That is, use an improved version of the
> latest elections for five of the at large seats, and some kind
> of indirect election for the remaining four.
>
> Some of us apparently can. Others, such as Jeanette Hofmann
> and Ted Byfield, are strongly opposed.
Just for clarification, I am not strongly opposed to such a model. I've argued
against proposing indirect elections for 4 At Large directors it now and
suggested to leave it to the study group(s) to discuss its merits.
While I am very much against proposing indirect elections for mere tactical
reasons, I would be open to such a model if someone were able to show
convincingly that the results of indirect elections are more representative, fair
and democratic than direct elections.
I'd hope that the study groups do a good job at weighing the pros and cons of
all conceivable solutions.
jeanette
Still others (Barbara
> Simons) argue tactically, and say that this idea, once
> introduced, could be abused in order to justify the selection
> of the remaining four seats by the rest of the board. I'm
> inclined to disagree with Barbara on this question, since the
> model she proposes is out of bounds eo ispo, but then again...
>
> As a conclusion, I do believe that the last option should be
> examined by the study. But I also think that we may savely claim
> that the other three models don't need to be examined in depth by
> the study committee, since consensus on them is just impossible.
>
> Of course, working out the details of any such model, and
> analyzing t he latest elections, are one of the most important
> topics of the study.
>
> - The Study Committee.
>
> There has been quite some discussion on who should and should not
> go into the study committee. The current staff paper suggests one
> sitting board member, and mentions experience, which implies that
> no of the newly-elected directors matches this description.
>
> Suggestions we had so far included these:
>
> -> Appoint _two_ sitting board members who can balance each other,
> one of them being an elected one. Some mentioned that this
> option would still permit for a Kraaijenbrink-Katoh ticket,
> which looks like a horror scenario for some, and would
> certainly draw criticism. (Froomkins even called the
> Kraaijenbrink option a "slap in our face".)
>
> -> Don't include any sitting board members at all, and ask a
> former member of the board to participate. Greg Crew was
> mentioned by Wolfgang Kleinwächter.
>
> Alexander Svensson mentioned that this option would not include
> a reasonable liaison between the board and the committee, and
> that including a sitting director may actually be favorable.
>
> -> Include a former director and a candidate from the latest
> elections. Individuals mentioned were (in alphabetical order)
> Jeanette Hofmann, Lawrence Lessig, and Barbara Simons. There
> are probably others who may be suitable.
>
> I don't see any consensus in this question, except - maybe - on
> the feeling that any of the "board squatters" would not be
> acceptable as a member of the study committee. However, we should
> be aware of the fact that accepting the experience requirement and
> excluding the "board squatters" from the set of acceptable
> liaisons would imply that we'd call for one of the SO directors to
> serve on the study committee. Some may find this undesirable.
>
> One possible way out of this mine field may be the following
> approach: Appoint a former director in order to communicate the
> necessary experience with ICANN's history, and appoint one of the
> newly-elected at large directors to communicate experience with
> the election process, and serve as a liaison to the board.
>
>
> --
> Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>