RE: [icann-europe] Re: [ga] Re: [icann-europe] new.net and Tiscali

[Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

If you think about it, this is obviously what ICANN wants. As the main dog
in the manger, keeping all other cooperative/collective solutions
suppressed, the cartel approach is the only way left to route around them.

The ICANN is either too stupid for words or they are cunningly manipulating
the internet into a cartel-only existance. I don't see a middle-ground
interpretation of their actions. Maybe my imagination is lacking?

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Marc Schneiders [mailto:marc@schneiders.org]
|> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 3:11 PM
|> To: steinle@smartvia.de
|> Cc: icann-europe@lists.fitug.de; ga@dnso.org
|> Subject: Re: [icann-europe] Re: [ga] Re: [icann-europe] new.net and
|> Tiscali
|> 
|> 
|> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, at 22:51 [=GMT+0100], steinle@smartvia.de wrote:
|> 
|> > @ Pascal and all,
|> > 
|> > There will be definitivly a Domain resolution over the Tiscali
|> > DNS. All other is wishful thinking from you as a competitor.
|> > 
|> > According to my information New.net will add another big ISP in
|> > the next days to jump over 100 mil users with access before 2002.
|> > 
|> > ISPs smell the cash... there is no reason for ISPs why they
|> > shouldn't join the New.net team. Hey, they get mo money and their
|> > customers get more TLDs. Sounds goog to me.
|> > 
|> > Sorry,
|> > but as always money makes the world go round.
|> 
|> No need to apologize, just to think. Is this what we want? Me selling
|> bad.kids and you too? 
|> 
|> I don't think so. I would like to go for something solid. Regulated,
|> but NOT a cartel.
|> 
|> -- 
|> marc@j.root-servers.orsc
|> 
|> > 
|> > cheers,
|> > simon
|> > http://nic.pro.xs2.net
|> > 
|> > > Jeff, Thomas and all,
|> > > Tiscal has confirmed that there is a form of cooperation 
|> with new.net.
|> > > _but_ following my information, there's no active 
|> registration over the 
|> > > Tiscali network. Furthermore a Domain resolution over 
|> the Tiscali DNS 
|> > > has not been confirmed yet. As far as I know, there are 
|> no further 
|> > > informations as the press release of new.net, which 
|> doesn't say veray 
|> > > much...
|> > > Regards,
|> > > Pascal
|> > > On 20 Dec 2001 at 13:16, Jeff Williams wrote:
|> > > > Thomas and all,
|> > > > 
|> > > >   Thomas, thank you for this input.  It is not 
|> unexpected of course. As
|> > > > has been the steady but somewhat subdued trend, the 
|> ISP's seeking
|> > > > additional customers and service product offerings, 
|> Inclusive and
|> > > > competitive registries/Root structures are becoming 
|> the best avenue for
|> > > > both potential customer and the ISP's....
|> > > > 
|> > > > Thomas Roessler wrote:
|> > > > 
|> > > > > According to an item on Heise's news ticker, Tiscali 
|> - one of the
|> > > > > larger European ISPs - has joined the club of those 
|> who will add
|> > > > > new.net's domains.
|> > > > >
|> > > > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-20.12.01-000/
|> > > > > http://www.new.net/tiscali_press.tp
|> > > > >
|> > > > > There doesn't seem to be any press release on 
|> Tiscali's web site.
|> > > > >
|> > > > > --
|> > > > > Thomas Roessler                        
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> > > 
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