Re: [atlarge-discuss] Sorry, I must decline

[Eric Dierker <eric@it.com.vn>]

These fine two gentlemen make very good points.
So I suppose the question of, whether to be or not to be, is still alive 
and well.  "Should I stay or should I go now, if I stay there will be 
trouble, if I go there may be double"
As a strategist I keep trying to read the bones, but it is very difficult 
on the shifting sand dune called ICANN.
When you cannot count on anything you need to count on yourself.  If you do 
not stand for anything you will fall for everything.
I think I will stick around and try to keep this group from being devoured 
by ICANN.
Eric
> 


Marc
> 
> I respect your decision, and your feelings have resonance for me too. I
> agree greatly with many things you said. I believe in the end, any
> organisation that demands full representation for the millions of
> internet users, in the running of the Internet, has to do so from a
> position of numerical strength.
> 
> More on this later.
> 
> Richard Henderson
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marc Schneiders <marc@schneiders.org>
> To: icannatlarge.com election <alexander@svensson.de>
> Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 3:05 AM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Sorry, I must decline
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, at 00:22 [=GMT+0200], icannatlarge.com election
> wrote:
>>
>> > You have been nominated for the icannatlarge.com panel.
>>
>> > Please send an email (CC atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de)
>> > and either ACCEPT or DECLINE this nomination.
>>
>> Tonight I have decided that I must decline the nomination, and not
>> merely for lack of time. I am by now convinced that hours spend
>> _within_ the ICANN process are wasted, most probably.
>>
>> Though I am unsure how internet governance can find shapes that
>> contain guarentees (or at least possibilities) for the safeguarding of
>> the interests of all internet people, alongside ICANN, apart from it,
>> and if necessary against or without it, I have no other option, simply
>> for lack of faith in the present endeavour, than to say: I cannot
>> help.
>>
>> Although I have never, I think, felt a dogmatic need to clutch to
>> worldwide direct elections as the only way to give ICANN legitimacy, I
>> cannot engage actively in any organization or group any longer, unless
>> it is clear about the complete lack of this legitimacy in the new
>> ICANN as envisaged by its present Board.
>>
>> I feel the way to get out of the situation we are now stuck in, is not
>> playing the AtLarge game of the present Board, especially since the
>> rules of the game are not clear from the start, and are unilaterally
>> determined by those that, in majority, are against user influence.
>> Participating in at-large.org will only breed frustration. At least
>> for me.
>>
>> I have been considering to suggest or help starting up something
>> rather different, an organization that can operate from a position of
>> strength, and, if needed, go against ICANN. That is clear about that
>> option from the start. That will not refuse to communicate with ICANN,
>> but will deny ICANN the right to tell internet users where they can
>> play and where not, what they can play and what not. A consumer
>> organization, since ICANN is more and more just protecting those who
>> make money from the Net, and managing a cartel, so we cannot vote with
>> our money. But I do not like this perspective much. We are users, I
>> would like to think, which is more than just consumers.
>>
>> Maybe I am a romantic who happens to be in a bad mood. So, do not let
>> this message discourage all of you who have more or a different faith
>> than I. Mine is too vague right now anyway to be useful. I would not
>> mind at all, if icannatlarge.com's success in the coming months, year,
>> proves that I was wrong tonight.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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