Re: [atlarge-discuss] No quorum

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

There seems to be a lack of understanding among some members about the scope
of responsibility, accountability and authority of the panel.

There cannot be accountability without authority, yet I constantly read that
the panel has zero authority to do anything.  It seems that we expect them
to accomplish certain tasks while being subjected to a barrage of criticism
and complaint from every direction.  It seems that we have eleven slaves and
1000 slavemasters (even if some slavemasters are more vocal than others).
This is unacceptable and needs to change immediately.

It is reasonable for members to express their views on any task being
performed by the panel.  It is also reasonable for the panel to read and
consider (and, if necessary, reconsider and reconsider) those comments.  A
process which will naturally lead to them being accused of failing to make a
decision quickly enough.  Add to this an environment where any decision is
the wrong decision for someone, and where the panel is repeatedly told they
have no authority to make a decision without a vote to decide whether or not
they have the authority to make the decision they made...  and we have
devolved into the ridiculous.

It is patently impossible for the panel to satisfy opposite points of view,
or for that matter to perform any of the tasks required of them, if they
remain subject to this type of daily (hourly) harassment.

Until they prove me wrong, I have total faith in the people that we elected
do this difficult work for us.  I believe that, if we harass them to the
point where they are unable to work, and eventually step down because the
"effort-to-accomplishment ratio" is just too great, we will achieve NOTHING.

If a member of this organization has the authority to propose a solution to
this sad state of affairs, I Propose that:

    WE, the members of this group that is currently known as ICANATLARGE, do
accord the members of our duly elected organizing panel the authority to
accomplish, without the requirement of additional permissions or constraints
from the membership, those tasks required of them in outline. Namely:
1) complete and provide to the membership for discussion and eventual
ratification, a mission statement that simply but clearly declares the
purpose and method of our organization.
2) complete and provide to the membership for discussion and eventual
ratification a set of by-laws under which the organization may be
incorporated.
3) complete and provide to the membership for discussion and eventual
ratification a set of rules under which the organization's website should be
managed and the appointment of a webmaster.
4) research and present to the membership for discussion and eventual
ratification a recommendation for the type of incorporation that we should
undertake and the location best suited to that incorporation.
5) research and present to the membership for discussion and eventual
ratification the best methodology for dealing with membership polls,
ratification votes, votes on other issues properly raised and appropriately
supported, and elections.
6) arrange on behalf of our organization the process for registration or
transfer of any trademarks and domain names to whatever legal entity is
formed as the result of count 4) above.

It is further proposed that:
7) while the authority hereby bestowed is limited to the above listed tasks,
the panel may at any time request additional authority (e.g. to perform the
incorporation of our organization according to the ratified will of the
membership).  And, that if granted by a majority of voting members, such
authority will not be questioned unless it is removed by similar process.
8) it is specifically confirmed in this proposal that the above limited
authority and protection from constraint does not prevent the panel from
appointing working groups or other advisory devices and does not prevent the
panel from seeking membership input on any issue, directly or through the
atlarge discuss list. Nor does it require such procedures.
9) the tasks in count 1) through 6) plus any additional tasks are not
necessarily in order of priority but that the panel will, by weekly report,
advise the membership of the progress being made on each count and an
approximate time for expected completion.

Ron Sherwood


----- Original Message -----
From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
To: <james.love@cptech.org>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] No quorum


> Jamie writes:  << Danny, did you bother to vote for any of the panel
members?
> >>
>
> Nice way to duck the issue Jamie.  You and your fellow panelists were
elected
> with a mandate to draft the bylaws for this organization.  You haven't
done
> so, and continue to demonstrate no inclination to ever do so.  Without a
> Charter to guide organizational activities you are even more illegitimate
> than ICANN.  As this last no-quorum incident reveals, there is no
> accountability at the Panel level.
>
> Do your job and draft the bylaws.
>
>
>
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