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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: WG-DNS name protection



2 things:

1. I have to say I agree with David that I think you're too prone to
flaming to be a content submitter to the website *qua* webmaster.
However, as an individual that's fine, of course.

2. The Slashcode-ish look is ok. You really need to change those <td
bgcolor="#ffffff"> backgrounds to delineate between various content
spaces, though. Personally, I prefer CSS to bgcolor declarations (easier
on the file downloads, too...) but users of ancient browsers may need
this deprecated crutch.

-s

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 17:06, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> http://www.worldatlarge.org/index.php
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> 
> Hans Klein wrote:
> 
> > Sotiris,
> >
> > If you have a mock-up web site, I am sure we would all be eager to see it.
> >
> > Can you post the URL?
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > At 02:15 PM 10/16/2002 -0400, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> > >DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jamie,
> > > >
> > > > Before you begin questioning the relationship between established user
> > > > organizations and ICANN, you might want to ask if your own group,
> > > without any
> > > > organizational documents, without even a mission statement, bylaws or
> > > > charter, even qualifies as an organization suitable for recognition as an
> > > > at-large structure.
> > >
> > >Perhaps a dis-organization, then?  Especially of late.
> > >
> > >Before I received this email from Danny, I was about to post a link to the
> > >list
> > >directing all of you to a mock-up web site which Hans requested I put together
> > >(even though I had ALREADY set up the PHPNuke site for all of you to view a
> > >couple months ago!  Remember that ladies and gentlemen?!?  Check the
> > >archives, if
> > >you like...).  However, having read Danny's email I stopped myself and
> > >decided to
> > >visit the Panel's closed list archive for a look at how our leaders are going
> > >about the business of this "organization".  Much to my surprise, I saw a
> > >motion
> > >from Jamie Love (seconded by Hans Klein) to make Brett Faussett the new
> > >webmaster.  No offense against Brett, but where's he been for the last couple
> > >months? I didn't hear him volunteering his services when a new webmaster was
> > >being sought.  Or, ( as is probably the case) is this some kind of a
> > >compromise
> > >selection to placate Joop?  In any case, if this is the direction the Panel
> > >wishes to take, then I wish them all the power in the world.  However, I
> > >cannot
> > >for a moment understand why the WG-Web members (of which I am one) were not
> > >consulted?
> > >
> > > > As per the Committee on ICANN Evolution and Reform's Second Interim
> > > > Implementation Report:  "We agree that individual at large entities should
> > > > meet some "accreditation" standard, and we find the criteria and standards
> > > > recommended by the Assistance Group to be an attractive list."
> > > >
> > > > This "list" stipulates structured, self-sustaining entities that engage in
> > > > outreach and post current information about the organization's aims,
> > > > structure, constituents, working mechanisms, and current leadership.
> > > >
> > > > 1.  Your aims are not posted
> > >
> > >To date I submitted TWO different versions of Mission Statements for this
> > >organization (both several months ago) which elicited next to no comments, and
> > >yet there is still no substantive work produced by the 'power elite' among
> > >us on
> > >this issue.  Shameful.  This and the webmaster issue noted above are enough to
> > >put off persons (such as myself) who are willing to contribute
> > >substantively...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2.  You have no organizational structure
> > >
> > >Oh, but we do... dis-organization.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 3.  You are not self-sustaining
> > >
> > >If bombast and self-important bluster were the fuel of the day, I'd say we're
> > >self-perpetuating rather than self-sustaining.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 4.  You have no established working mechanisms or procedures for the
> > > general
> > > > membership
> > >
> > >Why bother, that would detract from the nominal importance of our Panel
> > >Members...  BTW, Danny, have you perhaps heard anything from that champion
> > >of the
> > >common netizens, Satyajit Gupta?  I wonder if the other Panel Members
> > >approve of
> > >his delinquency?  If not, then why are there no steps being taken to
> > >replace him?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 5.  You can't document any organizational outreach activities
> > >
> > >Well, you might have something there.  Perhaps Richard Henderson can fill
> > >us in
> > >on the progress towards the 100, 000 membership base he promised.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > After you get your own house in order, then feel free to question the
> > > > relationship of ISOC chapters to ICANN -- they at least meet the minimum
> > > > criteria expected for an at-large structure.
> > >
> > >Except for the fact that they are now a Registry operator, which puts them
> > >in the
> > >gTLD constituency...
> > >
> > >Seriously Disappointed,
> > >
> > >Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > >
> > >
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