Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] RE: (fwd) [atlarge-panel] draft motion on membership vote

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all,

bruce@barelyadequate.info wrote:

> Jeff, for those of us who don't have lengthy exposure to the DNSO-GA, how
> about outlining the issues they have experienced.  If a problem can be
> defined, a system can usually be designed to avoid it!

  In brief, here are most of the problems that were reported on the
DNSO GA E-Mail VOting system:

1.) Disallowing DNSO members or participants from registering to
     actually receive a ballot because of their E-Mail addresses.

2.) Multiple ballots sent to the same E-Mail address but were
      seperate/unique ballots.   This is a particular problem as those
      separate ballots can than be sent to non-members to vote
      with as they are separate ballot with different and unique
      ballot numbers on them.  This is how the votes can get stacked
      or double counted.

3.) Timely sending of the Ballots.

4.) Format of E-Mail ballots was a bit confusing at first glance
        leading to Inadvertent mistakes.  Similar to the butterfly
      ballots in Florida...

5.) Selection of the Watchdogs.  This was and always will be the
     biggest problem.  This should be done by non-members to ensure
     integrity.

>
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
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> |  -----Original Message-----
> |  From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> |  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:57 PM
> |  To: Vittorio Bertola
> |  Cc: bruce@barelyadequate.info; atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de;
> |  atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> |  Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] RE: (fwd)
> |  [atlarge-panel] draft motion on membership vote
> |
> |
> |  Vittorio and all,
> |
> |    If you are working on a voting system that is similar to the DNSO's
> |  E-Mail voting system than you might want to cease doing so.  That
> |  system has time and time again proven to be terribly flawed.  The DNSO
> |  archives are full of evidence to that fact...
> |
> |  Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> |
> |  > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:53:59 -0800, you wrote:
> |  >
> |  > >Jefsey Morfin wrote:
> |  > >
> |  > >|  IMHO it is too complex a proposition. It calls for a lot
> |  of staff and
> |  > >|  effort and it is far too much demaning on the members in term of
> |  > >|  understanding of the ICAN situation.
> |  > >
> |  > >That's why I included "or similar Web-based voting options."  My only
> |  > >thought was to accomodate those that dislike e-mail voting
> |  and prefer a
> |  > >Web-based interface.  But the vote itself is far more
> |  important than the
> |  > >vehicle we use.
> |  >
> |  > I dislike Web voting because I think we would have a much lower
> |  > percentage of voters than by e-mail (let alone the fact that more
> |  > people have e-mail access than Web access). As I already told, I am
> |  > working on an e-mail voting system similar to the one we borrowed from
> |  > the DNSO, and I could run the vote if necessary, or I could give the
> |  > software to any trustee to run the vote. So it's not a matter of
> |  > "staffing" - it's more a question of what do we want to do.
> |  > --
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