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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Watchdog members



Joanna and all fellow members,

  Thank you for your well reasoned remarks, and analysis of this
increasingly harmful Jefsey-Election.  Make no mistake about it
as you rightly point out below, this is a take over attempt.

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Along with a few others, I was invited to be a Watchdog by Jefsey, I assume
> because I have prior Watchdog experience in ICANN Elections. About the same
> time, Joey Borda expressed concern about ID verification for candidates on
> the main discuss list. I have spoken with Joey on the phone and am
> reasonably certain he is who he says he is, is a trustworthy and reliable
> person, with experience as an election officer, hence I had no hesitation in
> recommending him as a Watchdog. I believe Jefsey then invited him to join.
>
> I myself resigned as a Watchdog shortly thereafter because I could not agree
> with Jefsey's explicit objections to any form of ID verification of the
> Watchdogs themselves, most of whom I do not know and have not seen
> participating, save Norbert Klein. And while Jefsey did not respond to
> reasoned argument, he cited published election rules, while refusing to
> provide a copy of the same.
>
> So far as Watchdog working methods are concerned, they bear no relation to
> that performed in ICANN DNSO Elections, except in name. It seems the new
> role has defined unilaterally by Jefsey unilaterally and so far as I'm
> aware, none of the Polling Committee - Jefsey, Bruce or Eric - have any
> prior experience as an ICANN Watchdog. No doubt they will correct me if I'm
> wrong. I believe one of the mistakes being made in this election, is not
> forwarding the ballots in their raw state to Watchdogs, instead stripping
> them of any ID. This severely restricts the watchdog's ability to double
> check the count, or checking ballots against the valid membership list, and
> so on. I would say that the watchdogs seem to be largely a symbolic gesture
> rather than fulfilling any meaningful role, hence I wanted no part of it and
> resigned.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:03 PM
> > To: abel@able-towers.com
> > Cc: 'At Large Discuss'
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Watchdog members
> >
> >
> > I forgot to point out the fact that:
> >
> > www.execlub.org/atlarge.htm
> >
> > IS NOT the official web site of this organization.
> >
> > --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
> >
> >
> > Abel Wisman wrote:
> >
> > >According to www.execlub.org/atlarge.htm :
> > >
> > >Joe Borda
> > >Alexandru Jalba
> > >Norbert Klein
> > >Thomas Roessler
> > >Merle Swain
> > >
> > >These have "watchdog" with their name so I am assuming they have
> > >accepted or offered to act as such.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Abel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,
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