RE: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

And by doing so allowed every reader of this list to see his address.

Nonetheless I repeat two things:

Paypal is not a valid verification system, I can enter multiple
addresses using multiple credit cards of which none have to be in my
name, meaning I can use a paypal account under several names using
different cards.

The various ways used by the verification committee were at least more
satisfactoryas that they ascertained on a per case base all the evidence
given, including phonecalls, to ascertain the identification of any
individual.

Finally it has also become clear from various postings on this list that
the there are several votes that want Joey Borda and his current team to
continue their efforts, why not join them instead of posting results on
yet another website and using a system that as for now anyone yet has to
support.

Regards

Abel




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com] 
> Sent: 02 June 2003 03:01
> To: Kristen Doyle; At Large Discuss
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> 
> 
> Woops, sorry about that Kristen.  I am relaying this to the List so 
> others do not make the same mistake I did.  :-)
> 
> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> 
> Kristen Doyle wrote:
> 
> > Im actually Male:) I know a lot of people get the sex wrong from the
> > First name
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> >     To: Kristen Doyle <mailto:colk@ixswr.org> ; At Large Discuss
> >     <mailto:atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> >     Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:50 PM
> >     Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> >
> >     I have received and refunded $1 from Kristen Doyle.  
> She has been
> >     verified and I have updated her status at:
> >     http://atlarge.ca/membership.html
> >
> >     Thank You Kristen.
> >
> >     --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
> >     Kristen Doyle wrote:
> >
> >>I have sent the dollar to you however I do not feel that 
> paypal is the 
> >>best way to 100% verify a person is who they say they are I 
> also have 
> >>my address listed in the whois for my domain ixswr.org 
> which is 7503 
> >>Reindeer Road Tampa, FL 33619
> >>USA
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> >>To: "At Large Discuss" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> >>Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:17 PM
> >>Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>>I want to thank everyone listed at: 
> http://atlarge.ca/membership.html 
> >>>for volunteering to be part of a provisional MC for the 
> purposes of 
> >>>ensuring that the elected Panel is composed of verified, authentic 
> >>>individuals.  Micheal Sherrill has sent me money via 
> Paypal, so he is 
> >>>already verified. For the others, if you like, you can 
> send me $1 via 
> >>>Paypal which I will refund to you, as that would be the 
> simplest and 
> >>>speediest process.  If that idea does not appeal to some of you, I 
> >>>would like for each of you to 1) come up with some other means of 
> >>>adequately proving your identity (this Committee has a wonderful 
> >>>opportunity to investigate various workable techniques), and 2) to 
> >>>provide me with a proper personal mailing address.
> >>>
> >>>--Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >"The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as the 
> >ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing 
> absolutely. But 
> >for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for 
> >modern physics fire is not an element but a phenomenon.
> >
> >>From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
> >and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that 
> jurisprudence can tell 
> >minutely how in its opinion power should be constituted and what
> >power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's 
> questions 
> >about the meaning of the mutations of power in time it can answer 
> >nothing."
> >				     --Leo Tolstoy, "War and Peace"
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> "The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as 
> the ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing 
> absolutely. But for history, the state and power are merely 
> phenomena, just as for modern physics fire is not an element 
> but a phenomenon.
> 
> >From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
> and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that jurisprudence 
> can tell minutely how in its opinion power should be 
> constituted and what
> power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's 
> questions about the meaning of the mutations of power in time 
> it can answer nothing."
> 				     --Leo Tolstoy, "War and Peace"
> 
> 
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