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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership Committee
Jeff H., and all fellow members,
Jeff Holt wrote:
> The name is Jeff, not James. And the reference is inaccurate and
> inflammatory in that it implies the attacks were on a particular
> religious group when in fact the targets were Iraqi forces under the
> regime of S. Hussein. The fact that such reference is outside of the
> realm of this Forum makes mention of it inappropriate. As for
> shambolic, fine, slaughter the King's English your way and I'll
> slaughter it my way... Esoteric definitions are not my forte' and
> word-games are for dilettantes.
>
> "Them that can DO, them that can't, TEACH."
How do you rectify this with those that teach and also DO?
>
>
> If you wish to start a debate on World Politics, there are many
> available venues for that elsewhere.... Admire whoever you wish, just
> do not expect emulation or admiration from those who would protect that
> right you enjoy.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> TTTT
> Jeff Holt
> Jefftttt@txucom.net
> www.tejas-info-services.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 2:18 PM
> To: Jeff Holt; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership Committee
>
> Dear James
>
> I won't develop a thread on this but:
>
> You find the comment "America bombs Moslems" offensive. Why is a
> statement
> of fact offensive?
>
> "America bombing Moslems" was what was offensive.... to most people in
> Europe, and certainly to the people who were killed.
>
> Current civilian deaths recorded in the UK/American attack: 5000 - that
> was
> too many, and does nothing to engender trust in the Arab world or reduce
> the
> threat of terrorism. A shame the US media didn't focus as much attention
> on
> each of those children and women and men as they did on *one* American
> soldier mysteriously 'rescued' from her hospital (who will undoubtedly
> feature in a sanitised Hollywood film - excuse me while I puke up over
> the
> facile sentimentality of that 'spin'). The attack took place in defiance
> of
> the international community. The French were heroic in their principled
> stand - I have tremendous admiration for them. The people of Europe were
> massively in their favour as the opinion polls showed. But I accept that
> you
> may take a different view of history (as presented by the learned Fox
> News)
> and you're entitled to.
>
> Moreover, reviewing my mail, I think the remark I made was unnecessary
> in
> the context of my mail to Dan, and so although I do'nt think it was
> inaccurate (Sorry, but Americans *DID* bomb Moslems), I apologise for
> making
> it in that context.
>
> We all share the net and we fight for Internet Users right to use it :
> for
> example, two of my sites - www.iraqwar.co.uk for my local website (and
> please note, Dan Tobias, the misuse again of .co.uk!); and a critical
> site I
> am just beginning, to highlight the dangerous imperialistic ambitions of
> some Americans : www.newamericancentury.info about the ludicrous
> "Campaign
> for a New American Century"... sorry but I prefer a Century for the
> World.
>
> On the subject of the word "shambolic", I politely suggest it is a
> little
> ambitious for an American to lecture an Englishman (and particularly an
> English teacher) on English. We've been using it here for 1600 years!
> Unfortunately if Americans don't like English they'll have to find a
> language of their own - English is English!
>
> I assure you that in English English there is indeed such a word as
> "shambolic".
> Oxford English Dictionary (that is *THE* dictionary): adjective:
> chaotic,
> unorganised
>
> Interestingly the word shambles (from Anglo-Saxon 'scamul') can also be
> used
> to mean: a scene of carnage (like the Market Place in Baghdad).
>
> Now... let's try not to fall out over our transatlantic cultural divide,
> when we have fine things in common to work together for here... you keep
> Disney, I'll keep Shakespeare, and I trust we can get on swell!
>
> yrs
>
> Richard Henderson
> (hoping this is the end of this thread!)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Holt <jefftttt@txucom.net>
> To: 'Richard Henderson' <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>;
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Membership Committee
>
> > Richard,
> >
> > Your comment about "America bombs Moslems" is offensive and uncalled
> for
> > as well as inaccurate and inflammatory.
> >
> > And FYI, there is no such word as "shambolic", which could lead a
> person
> > to believe that any who would use the abomination would be the same
> > individual.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jeff Holt
> > Jefftttt@txucom.net
> > www.tejas-info-services.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: Daniel R. Tobias; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership Committee
> >
> > Dan, Dan...
> >
> > This can't be good for your heart, you know...
> >
> > You have an obsession with taxonomy
> >
> > So I chose a .co.uk ending (because I felt like it at the time)
> >
> > I agree! You're right! But there you go, the world is shambolic...
> >
> > Better still, the use of subdomains is bang on target, and has been
> > urged
> > for some time
> >
> > Meanwhile... America bombs Moslems... half the world starves...
> >
> > I guess a tld here or there will just happen
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Richard H
> >
> > "Internet for the World, not just America"
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Daniel R. Tobias <dan@tobias.name>
> > To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership Committee
> >
> >
> > > On 1 Jun 2003 at 15:49, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.icannatlarge.co.uk/draftbylawsarticle05.htm
> > >
> > > (grumble) Not *another* maybe-official, maybe-not, stupid
> unnecessary
> > > domain name connected to ICANNAtLarge... in this case,
> > > "icannatlarge.co.uk", it's not only in an inappropriate second-level
> > > domain (.co.uk is for commercial entities in the U.K.; .org.uk would
> > > be more appropriate for noncommercial endeavors), but if it's
> > > actually
> > > an official branch of ICANNAtLarge, it ought to be done as a logical
> > > subdomain of icannatlarge.org.
> > >
> > > --
> > > == Dan ==
> > > Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/
> > > Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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