Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

James T.,  and all fellow members,

 I agree with you here entirely James.  I to stand absolutely opposed
for similar reasons.

James S. Tyre wrote:

> Absolutely opposed.
>
> It is one thing to put procedures in place to verify that "members" are in
> fact real people, etc., or to require Panelists to vote at least a certain
> percentage of the time.
>
> It is quite another to require members to vote or risk suspension.  Using
> the most recent U.S. Presidential election as but one example, suppose I
> declined to vote for Bush, Gore, Nader or any other third party candidate
> because I was not comfortable voting in favor of any.  Should I lose my
> right to vote in subsequent elections because I made a conscious choice not
> to vote for any rather than to vote for the least repugnant?
>
> It is telling that the voter turnout almost always is meaningfully higher
> in one party actual or virtual dictatorships than in (semi) democratic
> societies.  If memory serves, didn't more than 90% vote in favor of Saddam
> when he last ran for "election?"
>
> In a semi-democratic society, the right *not* to vote, without
> repercussion, is, and should be, as sacred as the right, and the use of
> that right, to vote.
>
> I state this as a strongly held principled position.  Who I voted for in
> this election is my business, but I did vote.
>
> At 02:47 PM 6/1/2003 -0300, A/S Mauro D. Ríos wrote:
> >Richard,
> >
> >Totally agree !!
> >
> >I would propose that the member that doesn't vote in the elections of a
> >Panel or he doesn't vote in three occasions where it is consulted to the
> >members, be suspended the membership.
> >
> >greetings,
> >Mauro.-
> >
> >   ----- Mensaje original -----
> >   De: Richard Henderson
> >   Para: A/S Mauro D. Ríos ; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> >   CC: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> >   Enviado: domingo, 01 de junio de 2003 13:58
> >   Asunto: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> >
> >
> >   Mauro
> >
> >   I suspect the 1095 figure for our membership is a fantasy. A lot of people
> >   just clicked to join once ages ago but have no further interest in the
> >   organisation. We need to introduce a system of annual membership where
> >   people are given 30 days notice of the expiry of their membership. That way
> >   we will keep the *real* membership and contacts up to date. Clearly a
> >   process of verification needs to accompany this, as I've little doubt
> > we are
> >   infiltrated by 'spooks'.
> >
> >   Something for the Membership and Verification Committee to consider?
> >
> >   Richard
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: A/S Mauro D. Ríos <mdrios@adinet.com.uy>
> >   To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
> >   Cc: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
> >   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:47 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> >
> >
> >   > Thank Richard.
> >   >
> >   > snip
> >   >
> >   > I continue thinking about the question that I made a lot of time ago:
> >   > How legitimacy or does representativeness have a Panel chosen by 216
> >   > voters of 1095 ?
> >   >
> >   > greetings
> >   > Mauro. -
> >   >
> >
> >
> >
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