Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS

["James S. Tyre" <jstyre@jstyre.com>]

Absolutely opposed.

It is one thing to put procedures in place to verify that "members" are in 
fact real people, etc., or to require Panelists to vote at least a certain 
percentage of the time.

It is quite another to require members to vote or risk suspension.  Using 
the most recent U.S. Presidential election as but one example, suppose I 
declined to vote for Bush, Gore, Nader or any other third party candidate 
because I was not comfortable voting in favor of any.  Should I lose my 
right to vote in subsequent elections because I made a conscious choice not 
to vote for any rather than to vote for the least repugnant?

It is telling that the voter turnout almost always is meaningfully higher 
in one party actual or virtual dictatorships than in (semi) democratic 
societies.  If memory serves, didn't more than 90% vote in favor of Saddam 
when he last ran for "election?"

In a semi-democratic society, the right *not* to vote, without 
repercussion, is, and should be, as sacred as the right, and the use of 
that right, to vote.

I state this as a strongly held principled position.  Who I voted for in 
this election is my business, but I did vote.

At 02:47 PM 6/1/2003 -0300, A/S Mauro D. Ríos wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Totally agree !!
>
> I would propose that the member that doesn't vote in the elections of a 
> Panel or he doesn't vote in three occasions where it is consulted to the 
> members, be suspended the membership.
>
> greetings,
> Mauro.-
>
>   ----- Mensaje original -----
>   De: Richard Henderson
>   Para: A/S Mauro D. Ríos ; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
>   CC: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
>   Enviado: domingo, 01 de junio de 2003 13:58
>   Asunto: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
>
>
>   Mauro
>
>   I suspect the 1095 figure for our membership is a fantasy. A lot of people
>   just clicked to join once ages ago but have no further interest in the
>   organisation. We need to introduce a system of annual membership where
>   people are given 30 days notice of the expiry of their membership. That way
>   we will keep the *real* membership and contacts up to date. Clearly a
>   process of verification needs to accompany this, as I've little doubt 
> we are
>   infiltrated by 'spooks'.
>
>   Something for the Membership and Verification Committee to consider?
>
>   Richard
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: A/S Mauro D. Ríos <mdrios@adinet.com.uy>
>   To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
>   Cc: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
>   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:47 PM
>   Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
>
>
>   > Thank Richard.
>   >
>   > snip
>   >
>   > I continue thinking about the question that I made a lot of time ago:
>   > How legitimacy or does representativeness have a Panel chosen by 216
>   > voters of 1095 ?
>   >
>   > greetings
>   > Mauro. -
>   >
>
>
>
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