Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Miaael and all fellow members,

Micheal Sherrill wrote:

> Hello Abel:
>
> Your quote: (I can enter multiple addresses using multiple credit cards of which none have to be in my name, meaning I can use a paypal account under several names using different cards).
>
> I do not think this is true.  A credit card has to be attached to someone via a bank.

  Not so. I have an Edward Jones Credit card.  Edward Jones is not a bank.

> Here in the United States you have to present a valid photo ID (driver’s license, military identification, passport, etc.) and your Social Security Number (SSN) card to a bank representative to get a credit card.

  Also not so.  I have never presented any of the above identification for
any credit card I now posses.  However at one time one had to have
at least two forms of identification one of which had to have you picture
on it to obtain a credit card.  But that was quite a number of years ago.
Many pre-approved credit cards can be obtained on the Internet.   In any
event having a credit card in your name is by no means a positive means
of identification.  Neither is having a Drivers License, or a Passport.  These
documents are often forged very successfully.  So your information here
is both out of date Michael and inconsistent with the actual facts as far
as positive identification is concerned.

>  Which is not issued immediately.  It only comes to one after a credit check.  If there is no link to the photo ID and SSN that provides sufficient information to the bank the card is not issued.  Now, any protocol can be presentnhacked.  But, I do not see that amount of resources being used to spoof this organization.
> Of course, there are (secured) credit cards that only allow one to charge the amount that the card holder deposited beforehand in the account.  I am not sure, but one would think that PayPal has procedure for this type of card, as well.
>
> You claim that you can enter several names under various credit cards for the same account.  Have you done this?
>
> As for phone calls, they only ascertain that someone can be reached at the other end.  Is Joey there, yes that is me.  Is Jeff there, yes that is me.  Is Micheal there, yes that is me.  Is Abel there, yes that is me.  It proves nothing is real except the phone number.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>
> Reply-To: <abel@able-towers.com>
> Date:  Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:07:35 +0100
>
> And by doing so allowed every reader of this list to see his address.
>
> Nonetheless I repeat two things:
>
> Paypal is not a valid verification system, I can enter multiple
> addresses using multiple credit cards of which none have to be in my
> name, meaning I can use a paypal account under several names using
> different cards.
>
> The various ways used by the verification committee were at least more
> satisfactoryas that they ascertained on a per case base all the evidence
> given, including phonecalls, to ascertain the identification of any
> individual.
>
> Finally it has also become clear from various postings on this list that
> the there are several votes that want Joey Borda and his current team to
> continue their efforts, why not join them instead of posting results on
> yet another website and using a system that as for now anyone yet has to
> support.
>
> Regards
>
> Abel
>
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