RE: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

I was one of the only 3 candidates that reached a perfect score on
verification.
Henceforth it is quite clear that I do NOT have any objections against
verification.

Your impromptu action is not one spoken about in the panel, nor voted on
and has met not only my resistance.
Your ideas on verification are not as ironclad as you pertain them to
be, after all I believe I am the one who lives in the UK and at times
receives registered mail, not you, but perhaps the postman is satisfied
with just seeing my face at the door.

I refered to the panel pending motions afore the panel on this
particular committee. Such awaiting democratic decision instead of
running of on a solo mission does not mean that I change my point of
view, just that I bow if the decision goes against my ideas.

The "much" needed work was done largely before you started, seeing as
the reports Joey posted at length to the membership. That people chose
to vote for candidates that were non-verified does not change that.

Doing things in a democratic fashion is the wish of the membership,
going against that on our first action(s) is not a favourable thing.

With regards

Abel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com] 
> Sent: 03 June 2003 18:00
> To: abel@able-towers.com
> Cc: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Abel Wisman wrote:
> 
> >Sotiris,
> >
> >As long as there is no confirmation on the fact that you are 
> an elected 
> >panel member and as long as the panel as a whole has not 
> voted on WHO 
> >is to "chair" any sort of verification committee I do not 
> see why you 
> >keep railroading this along using procedures that are non isues.
> >
> 
> Well, that's been settled and the panel confirmed.
> 
> >You can send registered letter to f.i. the UK, but IF the reply is 
> >returned, it could be signed by anyone living in that house 
> without the 
> >neccessity of showing id. Onceyou open the door you are only 
> asked if 
> >you are the recipient, a simple yes siffices, so again no proof.
> >
> 
> Not exactly.  Registered mail *requires* id to be produced at the 
> receiving end, otherwise it won't be delivered.  I think the UK 
> equivalent is called Special Delivery.  I'm sure if you check 
> with your 
> local post office you will see that I'm correct.
> 
> >
> >My id was established boyond a shadow of a doubt as were a 
> few others, 
> >why not start with accepting those.
> >
> 
> Nobody is to be excluded, I myself will be verified.  Why do 
> you balk at 
> being verified Abel?  
> 
> >The few that remain can be verified
> >by the same committee if the panel, once installed, so wishes.
> >
> 
> You can't have it both ways.  Either the panel runs the committee or 
> not.  Your earlier comments seemed quite clearly in favour of 
> "not", now 
> you're saying something else.  Some consistency would be 
> nice.  In any 
> case, I now have 5 of the 7 Provisional Membership Committee verified 
> and am waiting for any new volunteers until the 7th, at which 
> time the 
> Provisional Membership Committee will begin verifying all of 
> the Panel 
> Members.  Once this has been satisfactorily completed, then we will 
> discuss the who's and whats of the Membership Committee.  If you were 
> okay with "jfc" running an entire election in such an ad hoc, 
> dishevelled manner, I see no reason for you to protest this 
> much needed 
> work in progress.  Trust needs to be established and that's what I'm 
> doing.  
> 
> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> 
> 
> 
> 
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