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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
This matter was already and is subject of discussion on the panel list.
If we can in any way get re-assurance that the post was a hoax I will
personally propose to ban the poster from our midst.
Kind regards
Abel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 15 July 2003 16:15
> To: Ron Sherwood; IAL
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
>
> I request the Panel to initiate an enquiry into this, because
> issues of integrity are at stake, and also this crap does
> *nothing* to further the cause of our organisation. Either Mr
> Burr is lying; or someone in his department signed a reply in
> his name; or Jeff made up the e-mail. One thing's for certain
> - it does not help our cause at all. I would appreciate
> further enquiry to be formally carried out by the Panel. If
> Mr Burr was mistaken, or a subordinate signed in his name,
> then Jeff Williams is owed an apology. If Jeff Williams did
> *not* receive that e-mail from Mr Burr, then he should be
> expelled from this organisation, because he would in such
> circumstances have not only compromised our organisation, but
> broken all acceptable protocols by which people of integrity
> do business together.
>
> I would expect to be expelled, myself, if I was guilty of
> concocting a letter and deceiving this organisation. There
> have to be certain standards and limits. But I stress : I'm
> not saying Jeff did anything of the sort. There could be a
> simple explanation to this. And Jeff has provided us with
> useful information and news several times in the past.
> However, I'm fed up with this kind of crap. I request the
> panel to sort this out. To phone Mr Burr in person. To
> request Jeff send the original copy of the mail (and the
> properties etc) so we can see where it came from. Was Jeff
> himself in receipt of someone else's deceit?
>
> An implication has been made, that Jeff Williams lied and
> deceived. Answers need to be established, and relevant action taken.
>
> It may be possible for NIST to check their log of outgoing
> mail. This would be a helpful step. If Jeff is innocent, I
> want him vindicated and an apology forthwith. If that was an
> invented e-mail, there's no way back...
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Sherwood <sherwood@islands.vi>
> To: IAL <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:23 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
>
> All @Large members:
>
> I am sure a number of you felt that the message forwarded
> to the discuss list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed
> was written by Bill Burr, was couched in the same
> grammatically deficient terms as Jeff's own messages.
>
> I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that
> I emailed Bill Burr and asked him to authenticate it.
>
> This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.
>
> Ron Sherwood
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Burr
> To: Ron Sherwood
> Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Athentication
>
>
> Mr. Sherwood,
>
> I have no idea where what you forwarded came from. But not
> from me. It's the first time I've ever seen it. I've never
> signed anything "kindly" in my life. I don't understand the
> context at all.
>
> Bill Burr
>
>
> At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Burr:
>
> I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large group. We
> are attempting to organize a grass-roots membership of
> internet users according to the mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.
>
> There is some doubt among our membership concerning the
> following excerpt from a message delivered by one Jeff
> Williams and which is attributed to you.
>
> Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed,
> author this message to Jeff Williams.
>
> Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this request.
>
> Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood
>
>
> ------------------copy of message------------
>
> |> All fellow members and VR committee members,
> |>
> |> The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
> |>
> |> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
> |> Jeff,
> |>
> |> Thank you and your members of your organization for
> aiding in the
> |> development and furtherance of the developing standard
> required by
> |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> |> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and it would be
> |> advised for you to forward the most important element
> along to the
> |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> |> shepherd.
> |>
> |> Kindly,
> |> B. Burr NIST
> |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> |>
> |> =========== End of copy ==============
> William E. Burr
> NIST
> Manager, Security Technology Group
> 301-975-2914
> william.burr@nist.gov
>
>
>
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