Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

I request the Panel to initiate an enquiry into this, because issues of
integrity are at stake, and also this crap does *nothing* to further the
cause of our organisation. Either Mr Burr is lying; or someone in his
department signed a reply in his name; or Jeff made up the e-mail. One
thing's for certain - it does not help our cause at all. I would appreciate
further enquiry to be formally carried out by the Panel. If Mr Burr was
mistaken, or a subordinate signed in his name, then Jeff Williams is owed an
apology. If Jeff Williams did *not* receive that e-mail from Mr Burr, then
he should be expelled from this organisation, because he would in such
circumstances have not only compromised our organisation, but broken all
acceptable protocols by which people of integrity do business together.

I would expect to be expelled, myself, if I was guilty of concocting a
letter and deceiving this organisation. There have to be certain standards
and limits. But I stress : I'm not saying Jeff did anything of the sort.
There could be a simple explanation to this. And Jeff has provided us with
useful information and news several times in the past. However, I'm fed up
with this kind of crap. I request the panel to sort this out. To phone Mr
Burr in person. To request Jeff send the original copy of the mail (and the
properties etc) so we can see where it came from. Was Jeff himself in
receipt of someone else's deceit?

An implication has been made, that Jeff Williams lied and deceived. Answers
need to be established, and relevant action taken.

It may be possible for NIST to check their log of outgoing mail. This would
be a helpful step. If Jeff is innocent, I want him vindicated and an apology
forthwith. If that was an invented e-mail, there's no way back...

Sincerely,

Richard Henderson

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Sherwood <sherwood@islands.vi>
To: IAL <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication


All @Large members:

    I am sure a number of you felt that the message forwarded to the discuss
list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed was written by Bill Burr, was
couched in the same grammatically deficient terms as Jeff's own messages.

    I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that I emailed Bill
Burr and asked him to authenticate it.

    This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.

Ron Sherwood


----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Burr
To: Ron Sherwood
Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Athentication


Mr. Sherwood,

I have no idea where what you forwarded came from.  But not from me.  It's
the first time I've ever seen it.  I've never signed anything "kindly" in my
life.  I don't understand the context at all.

Bill Burr


At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:

  Dear Mr. Burr:

  I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large group.  We are attempting
to organize a grass-roots membership of internet users according to the
mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.

  There is some doubt among our membership concerning the following excerpt
from a message delivered by one Jeff Williams and which is attributed to
you.

  Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed, author this
message to Jeff Williams.

  Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this request.

  Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood


  ------------------copy of message------------

  |> All fellow members and VR committee members,
  |>
  |>   The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
  |>
  |> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
  |> Jeff,
  |>
  |>   Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in the
  |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required by
  |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
  |> Verification standards.  You may also wish to, and it would be
  |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to the
  |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
  |> shepherd.
  |>
  |> Kindly,
  |> B.  Burr NIST
  |> Manager, Security Technology Group
  |>
  |> ===========  End of copy ==============
William E. Burr
NIST
Manager, Security Technology Group
301-975-2914
william.burr@nist.gov



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