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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
Richard and all fellow members,
I think that Ron is yet again being obtuse in the extreme, as has
been his on an off again habit for a number of years. I just finished
posting the original post to which I solicited a private inquiry to which I
posted originally See: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0307/msg00307.html
and took the time to leave out the email addresses
in order to try or attempt to protect the privacy of those other
ISC-ABA list members not desiring embarrassing or unwanted
inquiries on this a different thread that Ron is using in this
this exchange. I am sorry if he or any members is confused,
however I tried to provide relevant information as a reference
for the VC and all members so as to hopefully keep everyone
aware of the actual direction that the USG in an effort with
other governments, small business as the info I sent CLEARLY
states and is an EXACT copy of the RELEVANT information
by which such determinations can be made.
Here is the archive of that response on this different thread to
Ron and all members:
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0307/msg00391.html
This contains the full post with the Email address of the
originator of the post to the isc-aba members list to
protect their privacy on this forum and not be considered
a cross post which seems to recently be a popular charge
of several of our Jefsey-elected false panel and other
members to make...
Richard Henderson wrote:
> I request the Panel to initiate an enquiry into this, because issues of
> integrity are at stake, and also this crap does *nothing* to further the
> cause of our organisation. Either Mr Burr is lying; or someone in his
> department signed a reply in his name; or Jeff made up the e-mail. One
> thing's for certain - it does not help our cause at all. I would appreciate
> further enquiry to be formally carried out by the Panel. If Mr Burr was
> mistaken, or a subordinate signed in his name, then Jeff Williams is owed an
> apology. If Jeff Williams did *not* receive that e-mail from Mr Burr, then
> he should be expelled from this organisation, because he would in such
> circumstances have not only compromised our organisation, but broken all
> acceptable protocols by which people of integrity do business together.
>
> I would expect to be expelled, myself, if I was guilty of concocting a
> letter and deceiving this organisation. There have to be certain standards
> and limits. But I stress : I'm not saying Jeff did anything of the sort.
> There could be a simple explanation to this. And Jeff has provided us with
> useful information and news several times in the past. However, I'm fed up
> with this kind of crap. I request the panel to sort this out. To phone Mr
> Burr in person. To request Jeff send the original copy of the mail (and the
> properties etc) so we can see where it came from. Was Jeff himself in
> receipt of someone else's deceit?
>
> An implication has been made, that Jeff Williams lied and deceived. Answers
> need to be established, and relevant action taken.
>
> It may be possible for NIST to check their log of outgoing mail. This would
> be a helpful step. If Jeff is innocent, I want him vindicated and an apology
> forthwith. If that was an invented e-mail, there's no way back...
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Sherwood <sherwood@islands.vi>
> To: IAL <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:23 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
> All @Large members:
>
> I am sure a number of you felt that the message forwarded to the discuss
> list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed was written by Bill Burr, was
> couched in the same grammatically deficient terms as Jeff's own messages.
>
> I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that I emailed Bill
> Burr and asked him to authenticate it.
>
> This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.
>
> Ron Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Burr
> To: Ron Sherwood
> Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Athentication
>
> Mr. Sherwood,
>
> I have no idea where what you forwarded came from. But not from me. It's
> the first time I've ever seen it. I've never signed anything "kindly" in my
> life. I don't understand the context at all.
>
> Bill Burr
>
> At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Burr:
>
> I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large group. We are attempting
> to organize a grass-roots membership of internet users according to the
> mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.
>
> There is some doubt among our membership concerning the following excerpt
> from a message delivered by one Jeff Williams and which is attributed to
> you.
>
> Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed, author this
> message to Jeff Williams.
>
> Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this request.
>
> Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood
>
> ------------------copy of message------------
>
> |> All fellow members and VR committee members,
> |>
> |> The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
> |>
> |> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
> |> Jeff,
> |>
> |> Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in the
> |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required by
> |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> |> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and it would be
> |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to the
> |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> |> shepherd.
> |>
> |> Kindly,
> |> B. Burr NIST
> |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> |>
> |> =========== End of copy ==============
> William E. Burr
> NIST
> Manager, Security Technology Group
> 301-975-2914
> william.burr@nist.gov
>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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