Re: [ICANN-EU] Re: [icann-candidates] ICANN hubbub

["JIM FLEMING" <jfleming@anet.com>]

Barbara,

Thanks for the reply. You might have missed my point.

In some people's opinion, the net can continue to function
quite well with or without ICANN. Let me give you a
similar situation as a comparison. Some people, might think
that the net can not operate without one of Esther's other
net nanny organizations, TRUSTe.....or for that matter, some
might think that the EFF is essential to the operations of the
net. TRUSTe, EFF and ICANN are all basically the same,
but none of them is essential for continued operation of the net.

@@@@ http://www.truste.org/about/about_truste.html

The TRUSTe Story

TRUSTe grew from a spark of an idea during a lecture on "Trust" at Esther
Dyson's PC Forum in March 1996. Among the attendees were Lori Fena,
Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), and Charles
Jennings, founder and CEO of Portland Software. Immediately after the
lecture, the two were introduced by a mutual friend who knew that each had
suggested the need for branded symbols of trust on the Internet similar to
UL Labs or Good Housekeeping "seals of approval." Then and there, the TRUSTe
initiative was born.

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If you feel that ICANN is essential...
....explain what they do that is essential...


Jim Fleming
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----- Original Message -----
From: Barbara Simons <simons@acm.org>
To: JIM FLEMING <jfleming@anet.com>
Cc: Michael McNulty <mcnulty@brownbain.com>; <karl@cavebear.com>;
<icann-candidates@egroups.com>; <telepresse@hotpop.com>;
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] Re: [icann-candidates] ICANN hubbub


> I don't think that something *has* to replace ICANN.
> I think that something *will* replace ICANN if ICANN
> is eliminated.  And my guess is that it is likely that we
> would long for the good old days of ICANN.
> Barbara
>
> JIM FLEMING wrote:
>
> > Barbara,
> >
> > Why do you think something has to replace ICANN ?
> >
> > What does ICANN do ?
> >
> > Note..."ICANN works with the root server operators, but does not operate
the
> > root
> > server system."
> >
> > @@@@ http://www.noie.gov.au/projects/international/DNS/gac/gac6min.htm
> >
> > "c) Root server system improvements
> >
> > Mr Roberts clarified the role of ICANN in relation to the operation of
the
> > root server system. He noted that ICANN owes an enormous debt of
gratitude
> > to the operators of the root servers. The services provided by the root
> > server operators are voluntary services undertaken in the public
interest.
> > ICANN works with the root server operators, but does not operate the
root
> > server system. Against this background, it is inappropriate for ICANN to
> > enter into contracts with the ccTLDs to provide root server system
> > services."
> >
> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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> > Jim Fleming
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barbara Simons <simons@acm.org>
> > To: Michael McNulty <mcnulty@brownbain.com>
> > Cc: <karl@cavebear.com>; <icann-candidates@egroups.com>;
> > <telepresse@hotpop.com>; <icann-europe@fitug.de>; Barbara Simons
> > <simons@acm.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:39 AM
> > Subject: [ICANN-EU] Re: [icann-candidates] ICANN hubbub
> >
> > > I share your concern.  My worry is that if ICANN were
> > > eliminated, we might end up with something even worse,
> > > with the most likely replacement candidate being WIPO.
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > > Michael McNulty wrote:
> > >
> > > > With the refreshingly emotional debate about ICANN governance
reaching
> > something
> > > > of a crescendo, I personally think it's advisable for everyone to
check
> > their
> > > > "hole cards".
> > > >
> > > > It is perfectly within the realm of possibility that
> > > > ICANN users could create such a storm of indignation that
> > > > the U.S. Department of Commerce (or the Congress) could feel
impelled to
> > step
> > > > in,
> > > > and even preempt ICANN's role in Internet governance.  I think
> > > > this is even more likely under a Republican administration.
> > > >
> > > > But, then where would we be?  I know others disagree, but
> > > > for my part, I think this would be the worst of all scenarios.
> > > >
> > > > Michael McNulty
> > > >
> > > >
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