Re: [atlarge-discuss] what is your target?

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

Actually I would disagree and Internet-II is coming faster than you think.
The Chinese and others have demanded it.

The net-net is that the switching centers that provide Internetational
Conduits WILL become eBorder centers and as such will have to deal with the
compartmentalization of the DNS services on a per-root zone basis. Anything
else's is just not really workable no matter what you have to say about it.
How does it feel to be impotent as an organization. That's right, impotent.

Which is to say that this organization while it continues to argue amongst
its members and fail to reach any consensus, reasonable or not, is doomed to
fail.

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: <eric@hi-tek.com>
To: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
Cc: "Vittorio Bertola" <vb@vitaminic.net>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>;
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] what is your target?


> It would appear that people are far more interested in services,
reliability,
> accessibility and pricing than in these politics.  But these pesky things
like
> blueprints may cause some real problem there.
> The NICs, RIRs and ccTLDs must be left alone.
>
> Eric
>
> "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" wrote:
>
> > At 07:32 26/06/02, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> > >On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:05:06 EDT, you wrote:
> > > >The performance of this panel even makes ICANN look good by
comparison.
> > >Danny,
> > >
> > >are you saying that our mandate in fact was a little too ambitious for
a
> > >group of seven people that are already involved in a ton of other
things?
> > >Yes, it possibly was, I can accept this.
> >
> > Dear Vittorio, James and all,
> > Nobody failed. ICANN is something no one needs except the parties to the
> > Internet Yalta ("status quo holders") as a smoke screen blocking
everything
> > through confusion and complexity to focus attention.
> >
> > Two attitudes. Most (Esther, VB, etc.) hope they can cooperate and
> > influence them. Jamie and some feel they are just being used.
> >
> > What is our target? Esther, VB (for the time being he said), Denise etc.
> > are first interested in ICANN so it makes sense a) they are more
numerous
> > on an ICANN list on ICANN b) they want to correct the ICANN from the
inside
> > and try hard to believe they can influence it. Most of them also have
> > normal personal agenda related to ICANN.
> >
> > What is not clear to me is what is Jamie's interest.
> > - If it is the people, at large. Then his role is to be disruptive until
> > people are considered (yet I don't understand how he will be able to
> > determine when/how they are really listen to).
> > - If his interest is in the network as a service to the people, he
should
> > help building that servce, its structure and its practices, now ICANN
has
> > clearly shown it does not want to be the International People Network
> > Operating Organization we need.
> >
> > I am personally interested in the later and I see no other interest in
the
> > ICANN now except that they are locking themselves in status quo,
protecting
> > us from too many inept actions from them. As long as the RIRs stay out
of
> > their mess, we now can build serious net services.
> >
> > I just wander who is interested in here?
> >
> > jfc
> >
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