RE: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Elections

["Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

Richard Henderson wrote:

>My preference is:
>
>1. Call for immediate nominations (for 1 year tenure)
>
>2. Set an election date which falls within the expiry of our mandate (eg by
July 27th)

I agree.  Let's stick to our agreed deadline for elections.  We've all had
enough broken promises from ICANN.  Let's not start any of our own!

>3. Get Elisabeth Porteneuve to help us carry out election (if she agrees)

Agreed.  If we can't have our own process in place (as seems unlikely at
this juncture) let's use what is offered.
Even though some consider the DNSO part of the enemy camp, by hosting our
first elections, then daring to call for rebid of their own contract, I
think we can consider them, if not allies, at least fellow travellers.

>4. Consider other processes IF they can produce an election by July 27th

It would be nice to have by-laws in place by the 27th, but I think most
everyone recognizes at this point that we might have set an unreasonable
deadline in that regard.  I say that if we have to sacrifice clarity of
thought and openness just to meet a deadline, the result would be flawed.

>I think all the in-your-face froth of Bucharest is really a distraction
because, as I
>have said before, we need to concern ourselves with OUR agenda, not
ICANN's,

However, to further our agena, particularly the pesky outreach part, we need
to get in people's faces.  And Bucharest was a valuable place to get in some
very influential faces without necessarily participating in or validating
ICANN's meetings.  From their posts, I get the feeling that this was the
attendees' primary motivation.  And like I said before, if this meeting,
coming at such a critical time for us, and with all the current mass media
attention (far more than previous ICANN meetings!), had been held in North
America, I would have probably sucked up the cost of tickets and showed up
myself, just for that reason.

>so let's just get on with building our own organisation and making it so
big that it
>cannot be marginalised.

Yes!

Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
Bruce@barelyadequate.info
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:35 AM
To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Cc: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Elections


Help! Let's work together for a democratic internet!

My preference is:

1. Call for immediate nominations (for 1 year tenure)

2. Set an election date which falls within the expiry of our mandate (eg by
July 27th)

3. Get Elisabeth Porteneuve to help us carry out election (if she agrees)

4. Consider other processes IF they can produce an election by July 27th

I fully understand the arguments for being "flexible" about dates in order
to get a good outcome, but I would prefer to use the framework set up for
the Interim Panel election, and mandate a new elected (1 year) committee
to deal with development of organisation (rather than try to develop all the
bylaws in advance, thereby delaying the elections still further).

It would be better to develop our organisation the other side of elections,
because then we remove time pressures, and allow a longer period to propose
ideas, afford full consultation with membership, and do things without
pressure.

Can we also "cool" the rhetoric, and work as friends (friends don't always
agree) and remember that we are working for millions of people all over our
world
so they can have a real say in how their internet is administered, and gain
a ruling democratic representation in the administration of the DNS.

I think all the in-your-face froth of Bucharest is really a distraction
because, as I
have said before, we need to concern ourselves with OUR agenda, not ICANN's,
so let's just get on with building our own organisation and making it so big
that it
cannot be marginalised.

Forget Bucharest. That's someone else's agenda. It's peripheral.

I vote for nominations and an early election.

Richard Henderson


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