RE: [atlarge-discuss] One small step...

["Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

Vittorio Bertola wrote:

>Only, I'd like to have a discussion on real and substantial matters,
>rather than on generic accusations of corruption.

As would most of us, I think.

>I think that everyone is free to accuse any other of anything, but
>should always make names and refer to precise facts.

I agree.  It's part of the "openness" thing everyone seems to demand, and
rightly so.

I would also like everyone to consider that we've spent so much time being
given the runaround by two-faced people on the ICANN board and staff, that
all of us are automatically looking for the same amongst ourselves!  It's
understandable, but we need to treat each other better.  Here are some ideas
I think would help in that regard:

	-  Let's all try and avoid assuming evil intent based on minimal facts, and
give each other the benefit of the doubt.  Condem actions, not people.

	-  Let's keep our processes open and document as much of it as we can on
our two e-mail forums and the Web site.

	-  Let's not forget that, for many of our members, English is a second
language (or third, or fourth, etc.!), so we shouldn't automatically assume
that a poorly-phrased statement is anything more than that.  And ask
politely for clarification!  If it turns out your interpretation was right
after all, you can go into (polite!) attack mode then!

	-  Finally, let's allow our fellow members the right to have a different
opinion, and give them the opportunity to defend it!  If we're truely
building a global community, we have to expect wildly differing ideas.  We
should respect all of them, temper them through the furnace of debate, come
to a concensus that the majority can agree on, and support the resulting
policy even if it isn't exactly how *we* wanted it.

If we can do these things well, no one will have any doubts about how our
policies were developed, or question the process used to develop them,
because it will be out there for everyone to look at that wants to.

Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
Bruce@barelyadequate.info
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@vitaminic.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:24 AM
To: Jeff Williams
Cc: discuss
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] One small step...


On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:12:53 -0700, you wrote:

>Vittorio and all stakeholders of interested parties,
>
>  I don't know if you are and "ICANN Protégés" or not.  I don't
>think that Sotiris was intimating such.  So your response Vittorio
>makes you look somewhat guilty or at least displaying a guilt
>complex...

Well, I was referring to some similar things Sotiris told me during an IRC
session on Thursday morning during Bucharest, and I was just trying to
understand whether he is now including me in the list or not. However, never
mind. Only, I'd like to have a discussion on real and substantial matters,
rather than on generic accusations of corruption. I think that everyone is
free to accuse any other of anything, but should always make names and refer
to precise facts.
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Vittorio Bertola     <vb@vitaminic.net>    Ph. +39 011 23381220
Vitaminic [The Music Evolution] - Vice President for Technology

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